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last question, what was the scope of the land controlled by nejame ? also, relations with other powerful ajis around.
this is difficult to know that with archaeology, at most, we could 1. find all the gusukus of the area 2. give an estimation only
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#nejame
there are more than 200 gusukus in okinawa, do they all trade with overseas ?
until now, all the gusukus that have been surveyed until now seem to. but not so many have been excavated.
ah, archaeologists from the other villages are concurring.
again a question about what happened after it lost its function as a gusuku. the text says 「in the 16th c. it is a sacred site」but also after, right ?
right 😁
there are more than 200 gusukus in okinawa, do they all trade with overseas ?
until now, all the gusukus that have been surveyed until now seem to. but not so many have been excavated.
ah, archaeologists from the other villages are concurring.
again a question about what happened after it lost its function as a gusuku. the text says 「in the 16th c. it is a sacred site」but also after, right ?
right 😁
#nejame
…their gusuku and live in shuri, that's the end of the 「function as a gusuku」
second question, also by local : for bringing tourists in, it might be necessary to cut trees, what about that ?
apparently the village and the culture office don't want to cut the trees, so tourists will have to walk around them.
another question about the relations nejame-kunigami, but we don't have data on that.
another local, who owns the gusuku ? it belongs to the vijlage, not the prefecture.
…their gusuku and live in shuri, that's the end of the 「function as a gusuku」
second question, also by local : for bringing tourists in, it might be necessary to cut trees, what about that ?
apparently the village and the culture office don't want to cut the trees, so tourists will have to walk around them.
another question about the relations nejame-kunigami, but we don't have data on that.
another local, who owns the gusuku ? it belongs to the vijlage, not the prefecture.
#nejame
…that too, so much secrecy i sometimes ask them if they work for the cia…)
(i mean, i've been forbidden to say anything about the kaniman tomb we're surveying on social media)
survey is important for conservation, restauration, presentation to tourists.
he ends here.
questions time. by a local lay person, about the artefacts, since there are some that 「date of the period after the gusuku lost its function as gusuku」, why ?
one of the ryukyu kings decided that all ajis should leave …
…that too, so much secrecy i sometimes ask them if they work for the cia…)
(i mean, i've been forbidden to say anything about the kaniman tomb we're surveying on social media)
survey is important for conservation, restauration, presentation to tourists.
he ends here.
questions time. by a local lay person, about the artefacts, since there are some that 「date of the period after the gusuku lost its function as gusuku」, why ?
one of the ryukyu kings decided that all ajis should leave …
#nejame
there are also lots of studies of coasts and river estuaries, because if you find chinese ceram in a possible harbour location, it might be interesting to climb the neighbouring mountain to see what is on top.
(i went and searched the river and beach next to the conf venue when i arrived but found nothing)(things archaeologists always do at the beach)
last, he will talk about 「what shall we do with historical sites」
first, show things to locals and tourists. (wish my colleagues thought…
there are also lots of studies of coasts and river estuaries, because if you find chinese ceram in a possible harbour location, it might be interesting to climb the neighbouring mountain to see what is on top.
(i went and searched the river and beach next to the conf venue when i arrived but found nothing)(things archaeologists always do at the beach)
last, he will talk about 「what shall we do with historical sites」
first, show things to locals and tourists. (wish my colleagues thought…
#nejame
…their harbours…
(no powerful gusuku without a good harbour)
the earth gusuku research is getting hot lately with nago putting a lot of strength in it (nan-gusuku in nago is an earth gusuku), especially with the fact it's 「ok」to have stone walls when you're an earth gusuku.
relations gusuku-surrounding villages also lately well studied.
he shows us the korean book. but he doesn't know what's in it… please, enter the 21st century…
…their harbours…
(no powerful gusuku without a good harbour)
the earth gusuku research is getting hot lately with nago putting a lot of strength in it (nan-gusuku in nago is an earth gusuku), especially with the fact it's 「ok」to have stone walls when you're an earth gusuku.
relations gusuku-surrounding villages also lately well studied.
he shows us the korean book. but he doesn't know what's in it… please, enter the 21st century…
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despite being called an 「earth gusuku」nejame do have stone walls (i was surprised the first time i went, i didn't expect them, i mean, that's ＊the＊ earth gusuku)
there are remains from late kaizuka period in ogimi, for instance in kijoka shellmound, just near the sea. at the beginning of gusuku period, people move to higher grounds such as nejame gusuku.
gusuku occupied 13-15th century.
interesting for relations with amami gusukus, relations with rest of asia (korea), relations with …
despite being called an 「earth gusuku」nejame do have stone walls (i was surprised the first time i went, i didn't expect them, i mean, that's ＊the＊ earth gusuku)
there are remains from late kaizuka period in ogimi, for instance in kijoka shellmound, just near the sea. at the beginning of gusuku period, people move to higher grounds such as nejame gusuku.
gusuku occupied 13-15th century.
interesting for relations with amami gusukus, relations with rest of asia (korea), relations with …
#nejame
2020 was the last students survey (stopped due to corona), they found postholes this time (and impressive artefacts, but they always found artefacts before too)
they found rice and cereals in the earth too.
in nakijin gusuku, the rice is found inside the gusuku and the other cereals outside in the villages : people inside and outside did not eat the same things.
such survey not yet done for nejame.
2020 was the last students survey (stopped due to corona), they found postholes this time (and impressive artefacts, but they always found artefacts before too)
they found rice and cereals in the earth too.
in nakijin gusuku, the rice is found inside the gusuku and the other cereals outside in the villages : people inside and outside did not eat the same things.
such survey not yet done for nejame.
#nejame
…korean and nobody can read it (please, people, that's the 21st century…)
in 2010, the students of the university of the ryukyus started landsurveys. (he explains how a theodolite works for the non-archaeo people)
survey one week every year since.
we now have a nice topo map of nejame.
since 2016, also excavations by the students. small scope, trenches, 2x0.5 m… mostly yields artefacts only.
…korean and nobody can read it (please, people, that's the 21st century…)
in 2010, the students of the university of the ryukyus started landsurveys. (he explains how a theodolite works for the non-archaeo people)
survey one week every year since.
we now have a nice topo map of nejame.
since 2016, also excavations by the students. small scope, trenches, 2x0.5 m… mostly yields artefacts only.
#nejame
…defensive ditch, no need to go and see」when visiting nejame gusuku.
in 1997, toma made his great survey and mapping of gusukus, including nejame.
there are two sacred areas + a flat area inbetween that all are part of the gusuku.
some think that the 「earth gusuku」and the 「stone gusuku」should be considered as different things, maybe different functions and significance.
korean researchers came in 2023 to compare the okinawan gusukus with others all over asia but the report is in …
…defensive ditch, no need to go and see」when visiting nejame gusuku.
in 1997, toma made his great survey and mapping of gusukus, including nejame.
there are two sacred areas + a flat area inbetween that all are part of the gusuku.
some think that the 「earth gusuku」and the 「stone gusuku」should be considered as different things, maybe different functions and significance.
korean researchers came in 2023 to compare the okinawan gusukus with others all over asia but the report is in …