@aliceif make one with
plz…
@ayke @wyatt also some stuff #IRC isn't the best way to do it anyway.
I'd consider #XMPP+#OMEMO and #PGP/MIME groupchats instead as @monocles / #monoclesChat & @delta / #deltaChat make those easier.
That being said I treat #IRC like #Habbo or the #Meatspace for that matter.
@nay@mice.tel same. Funnily the same providers already disqualified themselves due to being subject to #CloudAct so that's not a problem for me either. - If I wanted to I'd rather self-host on-premise, cuz then fucking around my stuff needs a break-in. Personally, I think that the non-permanence of #IRC [is a feature, not a bug!](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/116045696132668126) - And I think peoole should embrace it for that… - For *"asynchronous communication"*, [there are better tools out there](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/116050187644707430).
@marxistvegan I don't dismiss the problem but I also think we should stop accepting #TechIlliteracy and ignorance as cop-outs.
I'm not even asking #TechIlliterates to go to a #CryptoParty or use #Tails, but merely following step-by-step guides for easy-to-use and -setup options like #DeltaChat & #Thunderbird and/or #monoclesChat & #gajim respectably.
@novet @ambiguous_yelp I'll never trust any #SingleVendor and/or #SingleProvider solution, but demand real #E2EE with #SelfCustody and #SelfHosting capability as #FLOSS with reproduceable builds…
https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114935952643402592
Unlike #monoclesChat, #gajim (#XMPP+OMEMO) & #deltachat as well as #Thunderbird!
My [reservations](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114234551915193036) and [criticism](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114862595629371002) re: #Signal are not just valid, but the reality is *even worse than I thought*: - The fact that @signalapp@mastodon.world requires not only their shitty #Android #App, and a #PhoneNumber but literally won't allow people to use their shitty #Desktop-App unless they have an Android device with a camera pointed at it makes it utterly unuseable for certain users *who don't have a fucking #camera in their Android*… Seriously, do they expect folks to deal with that shit? - It's already worse in terms of #UX than #telegram and #discord and that too makes #XMPP+#OMEMO clients like @monocles@monocles.social / #monoclesChat & @gajim@fosstodon.org / #gajim easier and faster to onboard #TechIlliterates onto. - Whichever asshole decided that a *replacement for #SMS* should mandate #PII like a #PhoneNumber & not be natively cross-platform should be banned from doing any #tech in their life. Trying to circumvent this shit and helping folks with it makes me so fucking angry that I'm now explicitly refusing to support it! FIX THAT SHIT, @Mer__edith@mastodon.world, and if it means you need to kick some devs in their crouch then consider this a necessary *"investment"*… #sarcasm #TechSupport #TalesFromTechSupport #Enshittification #SignalSucks #TelegramSucks #Messengers
@nono2357 I disgree re: @signalapp / #Signal because it being a #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider 'solution' that by @Mer__edith 's own admission is hard locked-in at #aws and thus doubly subject to #CloudAct makes it a horrible choice, as they also collect #PII (in the form of #PhoneNumbers) and still peddle a #Shitcoin that even #Cryptocurrency expert users like @techlore can't even get to work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSGq9FQKU4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJoO2uWrX1M
Sala pública xmpp para quienes usan monocles chat
Recién creada.
Sala pública xmpp para quienes usan monocles chat.
monocles@salas.undernet.uy
La última actualización incluye pestañas de historias y publicaciones (feeds) . Por la diversidad de instancias no siempre camina todo bien o se entiende cómo funciona de entrada. Aprendemos sobre la marcha, así que la sala es para ayuda mutua e intercambios sobre estos temas.
Recién creada.
Sala pública xmpp para quienes usan monocles chat.
monocles@salas.undernet.uy
La última actualización incluye pestañas de historias y publicaciones (feeds) . Por la diversidad de instancias no siempre camina todo bien o se entiende cómo funciona de entrada. Aprendemos sobre la marcha, así que la sala es para ayuda mutua e intercambios sobre estos temas.
enlace directo:
xmpp:monocles@salas.undernet.uy?join
Monocles chat es similar a conversations, tiene algunas opciones más de configuración y personalización.
@gtronix using @signalapp / #Signal which is subject to #CloudAct and not just able but willing to comply with any data requests (remember, it's not real #E2EE if you don't hold the keys!) is criminally stupid!
Use #PGP/MIME (i.e. @delta / #deltaChat & @thunderbird ) or #XMPP+#OMEMO (i.e. @monocles / #monoclesChat & @gajim ) or stop entirely.
Lo de las stories y los posts en la app de #monocleschat al final nos va a causar más dolores de cabeza de lo que nos merecemos xD
Today, on Digital Independence Day, the new monocles chat update has finally been released on F-Droid ( https://f-droid.org/ ) 🎉 . Try it out for free and use the sovereign and independent XMPP between different messengers.
The Playstore update will follow as soon as possible!
#DiDay #did #DigitalIndependenceDay #monocles #monocleschat #xmpp #fdroid #messenger
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