@Martina Neumayer This is supposed to be a phone that women will also use
You honestly think that every smartphone out there has the same target audience as the Apple iPhone and the Samsung Galaxy?

This is supposed to be a phone that geeks will use first and foremost. The most hardcore of them. The direct opposite of “tech-illiterate”.

In case you didn't know: The new Jolla Phone is From The Makers Of™ the first Jolla Phone. And the Nokia N9. They were all targetted at the same audience who actually bought the direct predecessor of the N9, the Nokia N900.

I mean, look at the N900. Now, look at the iPhone 3GS and the iPhone 4 which came out before and after the N900. Notice how thick and clunky the N900 is in comparison especially with the iPhone 4? Why would someone buy that?

Because it ran Maemo. And because it had a slide-out hardware QWERTY keyboard.

Why would someone want that operating system if there were thousands of times more apps available for iOS?

Because Maemo is a fork of Debian GNU/Linux and still largely works and handles like Debian GNU/Linux. All the way to the “app store” being nothing but a pretty frontend for the apt package manager.

People who bought the Nokia N900 also bought second-hand IBM ThinkPad T43 or T60 business laptops with no operating system on them, just to install some Linux distro. No matter how much better a MacBook Air looked. No matter if almost everyone else was gushing over Windows 7 back then.

They also bought Linksys WRT54GL routers with the very intent to replace the stock firmware with OpenWrt, a firmware that offers professional industry-grade features, but that doesn't even have a Web interface. If you take your phone to ssh into your router and configure or upgrade it or check the logs, a hardware keyboard is much more convenient than a sleek design.

They also bought tickets to the annual Chaos Communication Congress.

Many of them bought the first Jolla Phone, hoping that they could acquire a TOHKBD, a slide-out hardware QWERTY keyboard that could be attached to the bottom of the phone instead of its own stock bottom, The Other Half. They were disappointed that the Nokia N950 didn't go into mass-production.

Some of those who missed both the first Jolla phone and the community-issued Jolla C opted for a grey-import Intex Aqua Fish, made in India for India, because it was basically a Jolla C without The Other Half that didn't even know it was actually a Jolla C. Not few of them hacked their Aqua Fish so it thought it's a Jolla C, and so they'd get system upgrades earlier.

The new Jolla Phone is an up-to-date take on the same principle as the old Jolla Phone. All the way up to The Other Half. Like, it's one of its key features that the bottom can be removed without exposing any circuitry, and that a third-party replacement with extra features can be attached, e.g. an additional battery or a more high-end camera or a slide-out hardware keyboard.

However, this requires the bottom half of the phone to be easily removeable. With an iPhone-like case, this isn't possible. Also, this requires the bottom half of the phone to have a rather simple shape so that any third-party Other Half matches the top in shape, and so that it's easy to manufacture. Other Halves are usually made by people in their spare time in small batches and never by big corporations.

By the way: If you expect the Jolla Phone to have anywhere close to as many apps, especially commercial apps, as the iPhone or a typical Android phone, you'll be disappointed, too. Literally all third-party apps available for Sailfish OS are free-as-in-freedom and open-source. And there's no Google Play Store.

Bottom line: Don't expect a MacBook Air from Tuxedo Computers. And don't expect Arch Linux to be every bit as “user-friendly” as Windows 10 or iOS.

@jolla

#Jolla #Jolla Phone #Jolla C #Nokia N900 #Nokia N9 #Intex Aqua Fish #Linux #GNU/Linux #Maemo #Sailfish OS
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Ce gars a ressuscité un Nokia N900 avec des supercondensateurs

https://fed.brid.gy/r/https://korben.info/nokia-n900-supercondensateurs-usb-c-diy.html

@gtronix also. ♥️ #maemo #meego #sailfishos ♥️ if they ever make a qwerty version then i wouldn't even be able to help myself.

Czytam, że Maemo (kiedyś linux od Nokii) ma się dobrze i działa (oprócz ofc N9/N900) np. na PinePhone, również z klawiaturą:

https://fosstodon.org/@bradlinder/115521728909652917

Więcej o tym systemie przeportowanym na Debiana:
https://maemo-leste.github.io

#LinuxPhone #Maemo

Maemo Leste is a mobile Linux distro that carries on the legacy of Nokia's short-lived Linux-based smartphone OS. Ccurrently based on Devuan Daedalus (Debian Bookworm), work is underway to migrate to Excalibur (Trixie). Here's a summary of recent developments. https://maemo-leste.github.io/maemo-leste-2025-daedalus-release.html #MobileLinux #MaemoLeste #Maemo #Debian #Duvian
Maemo Leste - Maemo Leste - 2025 Daedalus release

Pulled out my SailfishOS devices again in Sept ’25. Still love the gestures + UI, but ecosystem and value prop remain shaky. Not daily-driver ready yet. Full write-up here:

https://geekyschmidt.com/post/sailfishos-sept25

#SailfishOS #Jolla #LinuxMobile #Fediverse #Maemo

Revisiting SailfishOS – September 2025 Thoughts

My latest reflections on SailfishOS as of September 2025. UI brilliance, ecosystem struggles, and what Jolla needs to do next.

GNU Robbo – a free open source reimplementation of Janusz Pelc’s Robbo for the Atari XE/XL which was distributed by LK Avalon in 1989. https://archivegame.org/gnu-robbo/ #game #puzzle #linux #windows #playstation #sharp #maemo #amiga #symbian #bsd

@ipg Thinking about the design lineage of the Lumia 800, I guess it makes sense: the body is basically the #Nokia #N9 - which was all screen - so put the overlay on and keep the screen the same.

#WindowsPhone #Maemo #MeeGo

@OMG 🇪🇺 🇺🇦 :linux: Schon mal gehört von Sailfish OS?

Das kommt von der finnischen Firma Jolla Oy, die wiederum hervorgegangen ist aus den Machern des Linux-Smartphone Nokia N9, nachdem die vom Microsoft-Handlanger und neuen Nokia-Chef Stephen Elop gefeuert worden waren, um beim Linux-Phone-Primus Nokia alle Spuren von Linux und FLOSS zu tilgen und durch Windows und Microsoft-Produkte zu ersetzen.

Sailfish OS ist ein Fork des Mer-Projekt. Mer wiederum ist ein Fork von MeeGo. MeeGo selbst entstand, indem Nokias Maemo und (ursprünglich) Intels Moblin zusammengeführt wurden. Ein reines MeeGo ist nie auf Smartphones installiert worden; auf dem Nokia N9 und dem Entwickler-Smartphone N950 mit Hardwaretastatur lief eigentlich Maemo 6 "Harmattan" mit MeeGo-1.2-Anteilen. Maemo, das zuletzt in reinrassiger Form in der Version 5 "Fremantle" auf dem legendären Nokia N900 lief, ist wiederum ein direkter Fork von Debian und enthält tatsächlich Debian-Quellen. Moblin wiederum ist eine Neuentwicklung, die RPM nutzt, der letztlich auch seinen Weg bis nach Sailfish OS schaffte.

Mit anderen Worten: Sailfish OS ist ein echtes GNU/Linux und stammt von einigen echten GNU/Linux ab.

Auf dem ursprünglichen Jolla 1, dem eigentlich als Entwickler-Smartphone gedachten Jolla C und dem für den indischen Markt produzierten Intex Aqua Fish, das mit dem Jolla C fast baugleich ist, gibt es einen Android-Kompatibilitätslayer namens Aliendalvik mit abschaltbaren Google Play Services und Google Play Store. F-Droid ist zusätzlich vorinstalliert.

Auf Drittgeräten, auf denen offiziell die nachträgliche Installation von Sailfish OS von Jolla unterstützt wird (z. B. Sony-Xperia-Mittelklasse), gibt es Aliendalvik gänzlich ohne Google Play Services und Google Play Store, aber immer noch mit F-Droid vorinstalliert.

Auf Drittgeräten, die nur seitens der Community unterstützt werden, gibt es Sailfish OS nur ganz ohne Aliendalvik, also gänzlich frei von jeglichen Android-Spuren, aber mit sehr viel weniger Apps zur Verfügung, also auch ohne Android-Apps im Jolla Store.

Der einzige Nachteil von Sailfish OS ist ansonsten, daß die ganze grafische Benutzeroberfläche bis heute closed-source ist. Das kann man ablehnen aus prinzipiellen Gründen oder aus Furcht, Jolla hätte in der GUI Spyware versteckt.

CC: @GNU/Linux.ch

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #LangerPost #CWLangerPost #Linux #GNU/Linux #Nokia #Jolla #Maemo #MeeGo #Mer #SailfishOS
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