Kafka traveling under Schroedinger's Visa:
(from a thread by Sasha Gusev):
Dr. Émile P. Torres:
Four students at Case Western Reserve University were told that their visas had been revoked and that they will need to leave the country, while the semester is still going. Now, turns out, they don't! What a complete sh*tshow.
Sasha Gusev: This has to be one of the craziest admissions from A JUDGE that I've ever seen in a court transcript. What the hell are we doing here?!
THE COURT: Do you realize that this is Kafkaesque? I've got two experienced immigration lawyers on behalf of a client who is months away from graduation, who has done nothing wrong, who has been terminated from a system that you all keep telling me has no effect on his immigration status, although that clearly is BS. And now, his two very experienced lawyers can't even tell him whether or not he's here legally, because the Court can't tell him whether or not he's here legally, because the government's counsel can't tell him if he's here legally.
And the broader context is somehow even more embarrassing:
MR. *redacted*: I'm not able to answer that question, Your Honor.
THE COURT: How are you not able to answer that question? What does that even mean? He's either here legally or he's not here legally. You're the government's lawyer. Is he here legally? I mean, how is Mr. *redacted* supposed to know if he's here legally if you don't even know if he is here legally?
MR. *redacted* : He was lawfully admitted to the United States.
THE COURT: No, no, Mr. *redacted* there's a -- no, no Mr. *redacted* there is a yes or no answer here. We are not, this is not Schrodinger's visa, either he's here legally or he's not here legally. If you cannot answer the question, you have to explain to me why you cannot answer that question.
MR. *redacted*: I cannot answer that question. I have talked to ICE as to whether or not they consider at this point in time the individual, whether or not they are maintaining lawful status.
THE COURT: And what does ICE say to that?
MR. *redacted*: I have not received a response, Your Honor.
#USpol #immigration #kafkaesque
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1914125716943159324.html
https://theintercept.com/2025/04/17/international-student-visas-deport-dhs-ice/