@sun being old is fine, gold is old, it's what is ABLE to be done that is what interests me.

Today there is LightningNetwork which solves a bunch of problems around medium of exchange, and some usability issues etc, what is newly being built to enable anonymous payments over lightning is super-interesting (#fedimint), it also solves problems related to security for 85% of people who are not technically minded.

So yeh, u want old tho, old=asset.

@xi_timpin
It has the greatest talent behind it, defending the code, making incremental improvements to the code, adding the most value to the protocol.

Eg. Second layer solutions like LightningNetwork and FediMint allow more efficient transactions that are not involving the main blockchain till much later, and that create circular economies for communities. Also an appreciation for privacy (LN uses Tor), federation principles, and building resilient community systems (see #fedimint).

@Zergling_man
Both bitcoin and monero are of great interest to us.

We have become interested in #LightningNetwork these days after learning that it uses #Tor to connect, and is capable of using multiple LightningNodes to do a payment, ie. the node that gives you the #satoshis might not be the node that actually initiated the payment. That is impressive.

We were against LN as Layer2 bitcoin at first but there are some great use-cases (see #fediMint).

It looks like #fediBitcoinApp and #fediMint have clearly good intentions in trying to build communities that use #bitcoin.

Ideally they (#fediDotXyz) would not use servers that are Amazon and Microsoft (part of the #CAGEMAFIA), as they represent the worst of the legacy system.

FediMint require tech-savvy community leaders they call '#guardians' to manage the local federation. To what extent, 'guardians' may need to interact with fedi, including via CAGEMAFIA is unknown.