@freya I know you are trying to make the most of this for you and other power users, however I just wish to add that not all the blind users are so hooked up to eloquence TTS and only a few of them can use their TTS at such high speech rates. I have understood with this initial version of Graphene Speech services we can at least independently pass the initial setup of @GrapheneOS and then we can switch to our TTS synthesizer of choice. For example I am very unlikely to stop using #RHVoice and you are very unlikely to stop using #Eloquence no matter what do the Graphene OS folks implement.
Having really good modern open-source natural sounding TTS for reading books is not a waste as you are pointing out especially if they are planning to make the other direction part of the app i.e. speech to text as well.

We have the same thing with #NVDA on windows. By default it uses natural sounding voice built into windows that has the same mistakes you are pointing out here, then it has espeak-ng included as an opensource alternative capable of running at very very high speech rates. And you are still adding eloquence into your setup eventhough you need to pass extra hoops in order to even make it run on the modern hardware and software configurations.

It's a very good thing you are advocating for all the blind users here but still if I were you I would try to calm down a bit.

Morning mastofolks.
So I just loaded the computer up this morning, to be faced with a connection refused error from #NVDA. Apparently, #Eloquence3t host's connection was refused because the target machine actively refused it...I really don't know what that means, but I suspect it's why #Eloquence won't start up properly when I first turn on my machine?
Any ideas people, please?
Afternoon mastofolks.
Today is not a good day at all. Everything is, once again, going belly up.
Number one. Just spoken to Mum, who still has not had some important test results back. Her doctor's surgery's communications have been worse than useless. On top of that, her house move is being held up, and the solicitors are blaming her and my stepdad for not sending a document. In actual fact, that document was sent to the solicitor electronically two weeks ago.
Number two. Mum asked me to make an angel charm for her a while back. I've made one, but can I find it? Nope. So looks like a redo, and I now don't have the proper stock to make it.
Number three. I've just had to restart #NVDA after updating to the 64-bit version last night. When my computer loaded today, the default windows voice came on instead of #Eloquence.
I honestly don't know what is going on with today, but am seriously fricken done with it.

A quotation from Lyman Beecher

Eloquence is logic on fire.

Lyman Beecher (1775-1863) American minister, preacher, abolitionist
(Attributed)

More about this quote: wist.info/beecher-lyman/83457/

#quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #lymanbeecher #eloquence #oratory #preaching #publicspeaking #speaking

Beecher, Lyman - (Attributed) | WIST Quotations

Eloquence is logic on fire. This phrase is widely attributed to Beecher, but I cannot find a primary source. It is possible the overall phrase is from a combination of different Beecher comments about Theodore Weld (1803-1895), one of the founders of the American abolitionist movement. Beecher one time described…

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A quotation from Carlyle

For if a good speaker — an eloquent speaker — is not speaking the truth, is there a more horrid kind of object in creation?

Thomas Carlyle (1795-1881) Scottish essayist and historian
Speech (1866-04-02), “On the Choice of Books,” Inaugural Address as Lord Rector, University

More about this quote: wist.info/carlyle-thomas/732/

#quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #carlyle #thomascarlyle #deceit #eloquence #error #ignorance #incorrectness #lying #oration #presentation #speaker #speech #truth #untruth #misleading

Carlyle, Thomas - Speech (1866-04-02), "On the Choice of Books," Inaugural Address as Lord Rector, University of Edinburgh | WIST Quotations

For if a good speaker -- an eloquent speaker -- is not speaking the truth, is there a more horrid kind of object in creation? Often rendered: "Can there be a more horrible object in existence than an eloquent man not speaking the truth?" Regarding oration/declamation as an academic subject,…

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Hooo, la première version de mon texte qui a été sélectionné pour le concours d'#éloquence a été mise publiquement en ligne.

Sur une soixantaine de textes, le mien est en quatrième position.

Bon, à peu près personne ne va le lire.

Il y a des erreurs de mise en page : les références et sources en fin de texte ne sont pas les bonnes, et les bonnes sources sont mises sur une autre page. 🤪

Mais ça fait un peu plaisir quand-même.

https://www.fairequitable.org/2026/03/10/la-parole-aux-etudiant%c2%b7es-faire-et-bio-consomacteurs-publient-les-textes-des-jeunes-qui-interpellent-leurs-elu%c2%b7es/

#agriculture #syndicalisme

La parole aux étudiant·es : FAIRe et Bio Consom’acteurs publient les textes des jeunes qui interpellent leurs élu·es – FAIRe un monde équitable

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Do you speak another language? Do you wish the #eloquence addon for 64-bit #NVDA (version 2026 and above) was available in that language? Now it can be! Thanks to the hard work of CyrilleB79:
• french translation is available (by CyrilleB79)
• support for translations was added (also by CyrilleB79)
Sadly, as a monolingual person, I'm unfamiliar with the translation workflow. But it works the same way as other NVDA addons. All translation submissions are appreciated, with priority given to the languages eloquence supports. If there are no other changes that need releasing, I will release a new version of the addon every Friday with all available translation updates. You can install the addon via the updater, or find the latest release, along with a file called Eloquence.pot that I believe translators need, here:
github.com/fastfinge/eloquence_64/releases/tag/v16

It looks like you need to make a file named nvda.po, then put it in:
addon/locale/your_two_letter_language_code/LC_MESSAGES
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