@ingo_wichmann @oec @JuxGD OFC #GeldKarte being a physical-/instore-only payment method alsp completely made it obsolete.

• I do hope the folks behind #wero take this as a lession and avoid these issues.

Otherwise they'd be self-sabotaging from the get-go.

• Personally I think the #EU really needs to speed up it's development and actually release a competent #CreditCard standard that like #UnionPay, #JCB & #MIR actually works and like #PaySafeCard supports both anonymous, non-reloadable code cards (cuz *"#AML") and directly linked #credit & #debit cards, with all types being useable in store, on ATMs and online.

I just doubt that this will happen given that #Zensursula heads @EUCommission …

@ingo_wichmann @oec @JuxGD we had that #Bullshit in the past already in #Germany.

• It was called #GeldKarte and basically noone adopted it [but like a few (school-) cafeterias (which are on their own statistically nonexistant in Germany!)] because schools don't get paid to offer free lunches, they don't want to handle cash and because #CreditCards are nonexistant [as under-16 can't have a bank account or access one themselves, so #Debit cards ain't an option either - ignoring that no #CreditCard issuer is allowed to issue CCs to minors (under-18) anyway, even if these are debit/prepaid.

• People don't want the friction of having to transfer stuff back and forth which in said case wasn't eben free!

Nit to mention it's only physical (Chip+PIN) sales compatible, meaning one can't even use it like #Paysafecard, and acceptance was worse at peak than for #SMSpayment!

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeldKarte
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paysafecard

@oec @F3715H @JuxGD that's just digital casino chips and vouchers with extra steps...

• Might just buy/rent a #FeliCa prepaid card system (or similar).

That's not a #currency, that's merely a #prepaid payment system!

• Just more inconvenient than a #debit #CreditCard because it's not being accepted off-venue!

  • By that definition #CruiseShips like #AIDA that use their own #cashless cards for on-board payments have "spearheaded" that innovation ages ago.

So yeah, #GNUtaler doesn't even remotely compare with #Monero and everyone in denial of that can please kindly fuck off until that shit is actually listed on reputable and/or decentralized exchanges as well as swap services, cuz it's fungibility is on-par with casino chips!