Just heard about the latest centralized * Discord replacement, and my first reaction was…

Programmers not NIH’ing new clients or entire protocols, and improving existing #XMPP clients which are Almost There™ instead challenge (impossible)

FFS people, help improve Movim instead! 🫩

* Like, have we learned absolutely nothing from #Discord, #Twitter, #Reddit, #YouTube, #Telegram, etc? The common factor is #centralization…Centralization Guarantees Enshittification.© 😐

#contraXMPP #FreeSoftware (also mistakenly called #FOSS #OpenSource and #FLOSS)

@DM_Ronin Second time someone’s shared that post in this thread, but the first one was a DM, so here’s my reply again.

Soatok is a Signal fanboy and pers posts tend to be pretty disingenuous, no matter what protocol per is writing about.

Here’s a rebuttal of Soatok’s OMEMO post, by @moparisthebest - https://www.moparisthebest.com/against-silos-signal/

It’s especially telling that Soatok deleted the following comment from the OMEMO author Tim Henke, which was far more civil and less sensational than Soatok’s own post. https://www.moparisthebest.com/tim-henkes-omemo-response.txt

The perceptions created by Soatok’s posts have been incredibly destructive towards community-owned decentralized protocols. Some security “researcher” decides to fanboy the fashionable centralized platform of the hour, and everyone else fighting the good fight has to deal with the fallout and constantly keep refuting it.

I guess it’s just another case of Brandolini’s Law 🫩

“The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it.”

#XMPP #OMEMO #contraXMPP

@LadyNeuroFunk I use #XMPP as my primary medium of communication, be it chat or audio/video calls.

I ask non-geek contacts to install #Quicksy (Quicksy website) or #Prāv (Prāv website). If they are averse to phone number registration, I suggest regular XMPP clients and servers. There’s also the paid hosting and self-hosting route, and unlike #Matrix it’s actually easy and economical to do.

I also wrote a user’s guide to XMPP.

Down with proprietary and centralized platforms! ✊ Say no to #Discord #Telegram #WhatsApp and #Signal.

#contraXMPP

I feel for this user - I’m a fellow ADHD sufferer and their distress is all too clear to me - and I tried to help them in the replies.

But on the other hand, I’m utterly enraged at the broader problem, and all the people who aren’t taking action today, choosing instead to wait until the water is past their neck.

This is the latest example of why we shouldn’t use #nonfree / #proprietary / #restricted and #centralized platforms like #Telegram, #Discord, #WhatsApp, #Signal, #Instagram, #Facebook, #Twitter, #LinkedIn, #Bluesky, #GitHub, and others.

There’s a whole-ass history of centralized platforms having the same class of issues. When are y’all gonna stop ignoring the problem and start exercising the power you have?

It’s as simple as quitting centralized platforms, switching to #FreedomRespecting #decentralized platforms like #ActivityPub and #XMPP, and telling others to do the same.

Create your communities there, and tell others about them. Move all your activity there. Onboard your friends and family. When there’s no other way to reach you, they will move.

Keep up the social pressure, and never relent.

Here’s a user’s guide to XMPP, for whoever needs it.

And developers? Get involved, improve the protocols, the clients, the servers…heck, I’m pretty sure a lot of features and fixes are popular/longstanding enough to make it feasible to crowdfund your patches!

#FreeSoftware #Libre #OpenSource #contraXMPP

@GrapheneOS I like how this #Matrix issue has never been a problem with #XMPP. 😅

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/115012285317476330

For anyone looking to take a look (or another look) at XMPP, I wrote the The Quick and Easy Guide to Jabber/XMPP for new users.

There are plenty of active communities on XMPP, you can find them on search.jabber.network/tags

#contraXMPP

Begun, the Open Core Model has.

#Matrix users, it’s always a good time to move to #XMPP 😉

It’s an Internet standard, it’s not a corporate monoculture, it can host thousands of users on a Raspberry Pi, and it’s more privacy-conscious by design.

Check out the Quick and Easy Guide to Jabber/XMPP!

https://toot.kif.rocks/@davebloggt/114901852199969595

#contraXMPP

#Discord users, #XMPP is #federated and immune to this kind of #enshittification ! 🙂

Move yourself, move your friends, move your communities. Declare to all #centralized and #proprietary networks ( #Telegram #Signal #BlueSky …) - “Never again!”

The Quick and Easy Guide to Jabber/XMPP

#contraXMPP