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January 6, Five Years Later (w/ Robert Draper) – Know Your Enemy

January 6, Five Years Later (w/ Robert Draper)

January 12th, 2026 | 01:37:46 | E127

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Episode Summary

Matt and Sam talk to Robert Draper about his reporting from the Capitol on January 6, 2021, and how the Republican Party “lost its mind” in the months that followed.

Episode Notes

For years now on Know Your Enemy, we’ve taken the January 6, 2021 insurrection as a glimpse of Trumpism unbound—not a few naive Q-anon types and tourists bumbling around, and not an excuse to be blackmailed into voting for Democrats, but a violent prelude to what a second Trump term would be like, a judgment that, sadly, has been entirely vindicated.

One reason we’ve taken this perspective is Robert Draper’s exceptionally insightful reporting from the Capitol that day and the days that followed, beginning with being in the Capitol on January 6 and seeing first hand the MAGA mob’s unfolding violence, then following figures like Marjorie Taylor Greene, Paul Gosar, Kevin McCarthy, and others who followed Dear Leader’s coattails to power (or attention), offering fascinating portraits of the menagerie of conspiracy theorists, liars, and frauds at the center of power in Trump’s Washington.

We discuss what Draper experienced on January and what he’s learned since about the motivations behind, and meaning, of the riot, then ask him about Greene, Nick Fuentes, and Charlie Kirk, all of whom he’s profiled in the last year.

Sources:

Robert Draper, Weapons of Mass Delusion: When the Republican Party Lost Its Mind (2022)

— To Start a War: How the Bush Administration Took America into Iraq (2020)

— When the Tea Party Comes to Town: Inside the U.S. House of Representatives’ Most Combative, Dysfunctional, and Infuriating Term in Modern History (2012)

— Dead Certain: The Presidency of George W. Bush (2007)

— “‘I Was Just So Naïve’: Inside Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Break With Trump,” New York Times Magazine, Dec 29, 2026

— “Once He Was ‘Just Asking Questions.’ Now Tucker Carlson Is the Question,” New York Times Magazine, Nov 15, 2025

— “Nick Fuentes: A White Nationalist Problem for the Right,” New York Times Magazine, Sept 9, 2025

— “How Charlie Kirk Became the Youth Whisperer of the American Right,” New York Times Magazine, Feb 10, 2025

And please check out the new record from KYE’s own Will Epstein, “Yeah, Mostly.”

…and don’t forget to subscribe to Know Your Enemy on Patreon for access to all of our bonus episodes!

Show Contributors

Robert Draper, Sam Adler-Bell, and Matthew Sitman

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Seeing Things – January 6th Is Still Happening In Real Time – Liza Donnelly

I’m serious today because this is deadly serious, January 6th Is Still Happening In Real Time

By Liza Donnelly, Jan 06, 2026

Above is drawing I did as I watched the insurrection unfold on television on January 6th, 2020. It was terrifying.

Later that day, during a live broadcast, I did the above on paper, from memory, live on Instagram. Police officer Eugene Goodman was the man who stopped insurrectionists from further entering the depths of the Capital; I remember watching him, in awe, and was so moved by his bravery. He may have single handedly saved the lives of some Senators, Congress people and Vice President Mike Pence.

For some years after that horrific violent coup attempt, we were hopeful that it was an isolated event. But as I began to see how Trump continue his election-denying, and more and more people were willing to lie about it and join his side, it was clear to me that we were in big trouble. I saw that what was going to happen was that Trump and anyone who attached themselves to him with these lies, was going to try to affect a coup from within the government. Then he was re-elected on more lies, swindling his followers into thinking he was all for them.

We are living a slow, internal coup right now. Vote in ALL elections, protest and call your reps.

The Venezuelan opposition leader María Corina Machado has vowed to return to the country as soon as possible and she rejected the authority of the interim president backed by the US after it forcibly removed Maduro. She wants to return and hold elections.

Many people in Venezuela expected her to return as the leader of the country after Maduro was captured. Today, Machado publicly praised Trump for capturing Maduro, who was an illegitimate leader of the country following the previous elections which he lost. But Trump sidelined Machado as a potential leader, saying she has no support in her country; a flat out lie. She is hugely popular. Some are suggesting that because Machado was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize last year (for her opposition work against Maduro), and Trump desperately wanted to get it, that his ego will not let her return to the country. Trump wants to run Venezuela, and hopes to threaten those in power now to do what he wants. He probably thinks that Machado is not someone he can trust to do his bidding.

There was a briefing yesterday for the Congressional Gang of Four about the Venezuela military action. It left members with more questions, and we don’t know yet what those opposed to Trump’s warmongering will do.

“This business of coming over and just talking to some of us, I think is a special kind of stupid,” Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.) said in an interview Monday. “They need to sit down with every member of the Senate and explain what’s going on.”

As that briefing was going on, Trump advisor Stephen Miller was on CNN in an interview was at times very contentious, Miller yelling at Tapper, and saying some outrageous things. The premise of his comments were that the United States has the right, because of the fact that we are a superpower, to take over countries in the Western Hemisphere for our security. Power over diplomacy.

Below is a clip that will show you, as well as the full exchange. Miller stated that we have “a right to Greenland.” Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen of Denmark urged Mr. Trump on Sunday to “stop the threats” to annex Greenland, in effect attacking a NATO ally.

Miller:

“We live in a world, in the real world, Jake, that is governed by strength, that is governed by force, that is governed by power. These are the iron laws of the world since the beginning of time.”

“We set the terms and conditions,” Mr. Miller said. “We have a complete embargo on all of their oil and their ability to do commerce. So for them to do commerce, they need our permission. For them to be able to run an economy, they need our permission. So the United States is in charge. The United States is running the country.”

“The future of the free world depends on America being able to assert ourselves and our interests without apology. This whole period that happened after World War II when the United States began apologizing, groveling and begging…” then Jake Tapper cut him off saying “I don’t know what you’re talking about.”

“You’re looking at it the wrong way Jake. This neoliberalism idea that the United states should go around the world demanding elections everywhere!”

This is imperialism.

https://www.tiktok.com/@cnn/video/7592063639100624141?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc

Here’s the whole interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLFkQbPWWDI

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The Pentagon moved to punish retired Navy captain and Senator Mark Kelly for an “anti-Trump video” he was a part of (it was not anti-Trump), calling it “seditious behavior.” They want to cut his military pay of $6000/month.

“Pete Hegseth wants to send the message to every single retired servicemember that if they say something he or Donald Trump doesn’t like, they will come after them the same way,” Kelly said. “It’s outrageous and it is wrong. There is nothing more un-American than that.”

Here is the video: https://youtube.com/shorts/Fk9Gh3qwW4I?si=QlMPl9Xraza6tytc

I’ll end with one more thing about January 6th. Today on Capitol Hill, Pamela Hempel spoke at a hearing that Democrats held to mark the 5th anniversary of January 6th. She was one of the 1600 insurrectionists who were pardoned by Trump, but she refused the pardon and served time in prison.

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She said at the hearing today:

“Once I got away from the Maga cult and started educating myself about January 6th, I knew what I did was wrong. I am guilty and I own that guilt I had fallen for the president’s lies.”

A remarkable woman of conscience. I wish we had some like her among congressional Republicans, then we could end this madness.

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Trump blames media for Jan. 6 riot. Democrats excoriate Trump, backers

Rep. Crow: ‘There’s a lot of cowardice in our country today. There are universities buckling, CEOs taking the knee, law firms cowing, members of Congress capitulating’

https://sentinelcolorado.com/metro/trump-blames-media-for-jan-6-riot-democrats-excoriate-trump-backers/

#Jan6thInsurrection #Jan6 #CapitolRiot

Trump blames media for Jan. 6 riot. Democrats excoriate Trump, backers

Rep. Crow: ‘There’s a lot of cowardice in our country today. There are universities buckling, CEOs taking the knee, law firms cowing, members of Congress capitulating’

https://sentinelcolorado.com/metro/trump-blames-media-for-jan-6-riot-democrats-excoriate-trump-backers/

#Jan6thInsurrection #Jan6 #CapitolRiot

Hunter Walker was in the crowd on Jan. 6, 2021, to cover outgoing President Donald Trump's rally. He writes for Talking Points Memo about his memories of the day. "January 6 was, for me, the moment we lost the plot. It was a milestone in the erosion of our core values. It left Trump’s violent authoritarian movement emboldened and able to continue onward. The gates were forced open."

https://flip.it/2I7aT9

#USNews #USPolitics #CapitolRiot #CapitolInsurrection #TrumpAdministration #DonaldTrump

EDITORIAL: Trump cannot evade the reality of the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection

'After five years, Trump may try to cover his tracks, and his allies may help his effort to blur reality. But Jan. 6 remains today what it was when the House impeached him with bipartisan votes for inciting an insurrection'

https://sentinelcolorado.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-trump-cannot-evade-the-reality-of-the-jan-6-capitol-insurrection/

#Jan6th #Capitolriot #Jan6