@lamb @wyatt Fortunately, Opus is available out of the box pretty much everywhere nowadays except in Safari prior to macOS 15.4. This was helped by Opus being a collaboration between vendors (Microsoft and Xiph), not just something coming out of Xiph's or Google's cathedral. I do see on https://caniuse.com/opus that Safari supported Opus in Apple's CAF container before Xiph's Ogg container; might Apple have identified some obscure patent encumbering Ogg?

And you're right that Opus soundly beats MP3 in the "bitrate needed to stop being terrible" measure.

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