@erwinrossen
> Quite a misframing of the tenets of EA: do good and think of how to do this best.

in the context of the #overshoot #podcast, https://populationbalance.org/the-dangers-of-effective-altruism-alice-crary
do you think this is #AliceCrary who gives a wrong picture of what #PeterSinger, #WilliamMacAskill and #SamBankmanFried are saying and doing?

or do you think that bankman-fried, macaskill or singer are misusing the #EffectiveAltruism label?

> Yes, there are people misusing this frame to do evil, but equating EA with that frame is the dangerous path instead.

is this just a discussion of labels? one might say: »yes, lenin, trotsky and stalin called themselves communists but really they were misusing that label to do evil. don't equate communism with them.«

i don't mind if you have another definition of what EA is. i am curious to hear it!

however, peter singer is talking a lot about effective altruism, so i don't think it is wrong of me to talk about him as being a proponent of what he calls effective altruism.

Oh man #BrianChristian’s #TheAlignmentProblem is treating #WilliamMacAskill and the whole EA/Longtermer cult seriously on pp 235-36. This is after opening shots with a #NickBostrom quote on p 223.

Sigh.

Let’s see if he ever gets to the eugenics & racism.

At Blackwell's book shop author event with #WilliamMacaskill of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_altruism movement, no hard questions so far.
Effective altruism - Wikipedia

News in Kürze: Fritz Leiber, William MacAskill & mehr

täglich phantastische Nachrichten – Science Fiction, Fantasy, Horror

I'm listening to #WilliamMacAskill's #WhatWeOweTheFuture. As an #AnimalRights advocate, I appreciate his inclusion of animals in the moral universe. I also find myself frustrated by the levels of presumption that seem to plague popular works of #MoralPhilosophy. Not everything he views as a conflict is intrinsically an unsolvable "paradox," and his predictions about the future are, to put it mildly, hubristic. Sometimes we just don't know what we don't know. A little humility can go a long way.

Great #Salon article on the horrible #immorality of #effectivealtruism and it’s proponents like #WilliamMacAskill, #SamBankmanFried, #Musk, #PeterThiel, and the rest of the #billionaireboysclub:

Truly effective altruism focuses on now, not a billion years from now and works to lift everyone.

https://www.salon.com/2022/11/20/what-the-sam-bankman-fried-debacle-can-teach-us-about-longtermism/

What the Sam Bankman-Fried debacle can teach us about "longtermism"

I'm not surprised that longtermism led to fraud, corruption and disaster. I'm mostly surprised it wasn't worse

Salon

Fast forward to recently, when I spotted #WilliamMacAskill's #WhatWeOweTheFuture, which is all about how we owe it to future generations to not screw up the present. It recognises that humanity can now drive itself to extinction, and tries to figure out some strategies for avoiding that.

It seemed like it might press my armageddon fascination buttons but offer some rays of hope, and maybe suggest concrete actions.