@alanc @Radio_Azureus

I had to write that FGA in part because *everyone* forgot about the SAF. (-:

#Illumos #OmniOS #SmartOS #OpenIndiana #Tribblix #ServiceAccessFacility

@Radio_Azureus

#Illumos (and thus #OmniOS, #SmartOS, #Tribblix, et al.) has #ifconfig as well.

Indeed, some of its tooling, such as for service management, has been stable since the late 1980s; whereas the BSDs went through some churn in this area in the 1990s and early 2000s.

https://illumos.org/man/8/ifconfig

Another 2nd chance to tell legislators that the mechanisms that we have inherited from #Unix, and used in loads of #FreeSoftware operating systems from #NetBSD to #Tribblix, do not have date of birth/age fields for user accounts, is #Illinois, where HB5511 is the very same text as #California's, too.

https://my.ilga.gov/Legislation/BillStatus?DocTypeID=HB&DocNum=5511&GAID=18&LegID=167486

It really does seem at this point that this is model legislation.

Sponsors in Illionois are Jennifer Gong-Gershowitz, Margaret Croke, Janet Yang, Rohr, Kimberly Du Buclet, Natalie A. Manley, Angelica Guerrero-Cuellar, Rick Ryan, Michelle Mussman, Martha Deuter and Tracy Katz Muhl.

The bill is in the judiciary–civil committee as of yesterday.

It was introduced last month, 1 day after it was introduced in Colorado. I wonder in what other states it has just turned up.

A lobby organization handing pre-drafted bills to multiple sets of legislators is not unknown.

@nileane @RunxiYu
#CaliforniaLaw #USLaw #IllinoisLaw #FreeSoftware #AgeVerification

@dgl @cks @lyda

In the majority of cases there actually is no separate inet_pton() manual page.

https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=inet_pton&sektion=3

https://man.netbsd.org/inet_pton.3

http://tribblix.org/man/man3c/inet_pton.html

https://man.omnios.org/man3c/inet.3c

http://uw714doc.xinuos.com/en/man/html.3N/inet.3N.html

Although most of those call out inet_pton(), SCO #UnixWare in fact documented the four human-readable IPv4 formats for inet_pton(), and did not even have an inet_aton().

In #NetBSD, the internal inet_pton4() function was indeed updated by Christos Zoulas from the old Paul Vixie code to support the four human-readable formats of inet_aton(), 22 years ago; although it's not clear where this additional IPv4 conversion functionality is actually used.

The old Paul Vixie code from 1996 is retained in GNU libc, #FreeBSD, & #OpenBSD; this being code from the BIND DNS client library.

It was superseded by a from-scratch reimplementation based around a str2inet_addr() function in #Solaris/ #Illumos/ #Tribblix/ #OmniOS. musl libc also has its own from-scratch version.

@ska

@briandorsey

You wait until you learn that there's a handful of #Illumos-based operating systems still available.

In that alternate, the operating system has STREAMS and 'zones', uses the Service Access Facility (the Unix System 5 Release 4 replacement for Release 3 init+rc that almost everyone has since forgotten, that replaced in 1988 what people erroneously think of today as 'system v init') as part of its Solaris descendent the Service Management Facility, and also has ZFS and boot environments.

It, too, like the BSDs, has a different feel to the world of Linux-based operating systems.

#OpenIndiana #OmniOS #Tribblix #FreeBSD

@adacosta

There's a bit of a quibble with 'extinct' and not the usual one that #NetBSD, #FreeBSD, and #OpenBSD are very much still here.

#Illumos is still here, and available in the forms of #OpenIndiana, #OmniOS, and #Tribblix .

@ptribble 's latest Tribblix update was last November, for example. As was the most recent update to OmniOS.

@davefischer

Strictly speaking that's a conflation of two distinct strands of history that were a decade and a half apart.

AT&T #Unix System 5 Release 3 had the system of subdirectories and scriptlets, developed because /etc/rc had exploded into a mess when people came to realize that sysops installed third party softwares. This was superseded by something else, the SAF, in S5R4 in 1988. Unices with AT&T heritage such as #Illumos and #Tribblix have that still today, all these decades later.

Whereas what people erroneously call "System V init" was an init+rc system developed independently, for a different operating system with a separate lineage, cloning the design of the old AT&T Unix S5R3 system of roughly a decade before, by Miguel van Smoorenburg in the early to middle 1990s. *That* is the strand of history that went from Minix on to Linux, and was in some flavours succeeded by Upstart and then by systemd.

#HistoryOfComputing #retrocomputing #Upstart #ServiceAccessFacility

We just provide #BSD like #freebsd #openbsd #netbsd #dragonflybsd #midnightbsd and several other ones, but also #opensolaris with #tribblix #omnios #openindiana. So, we’re also pretty niche and that’s totally fine ;)

#runbsd #opensource #ipv6

@d4gli @Paul @gyptazy