@krutonium @quasigod I mean the advantage is that those devices are supported with @GrapheneOS ...

• Whether you choose them or not is up to you...

Personally, I need my #ToolfreeSwappableBattery, #DualSIM and #microSD as well s #HeadphoneJack and won't negotiate these, so #Fairphone is already loosing me as a customer and my next device will likely be something else...

@halva +9001%

• #HeadphoneJack is a non-negotiable #MustHave!

Just like #ToolfreeSwappableBattery and real #DualSIM (not #eSIM! If I want that I'll get that myself...)

@ustralien Sadly no, and that's my big disappointment!

@frameworkcomputer decided to choose the #Apple-esque "flat cells below #trackpad" design in the unreasonable #THINN-ness race instead of doing what even the #EeePC and #Sony's #Vaio #P11Z did and have a slot at the back to chug in batteries!

• I know why they did it, as a closed aluminium pan aka. "#lunchbox" design is easier to fabricate, but I'd rather some #ToolfreeSwappableBattery which are IMHO of more practicality than having the ability to swap out every port.

Not that I don't like those #modules, but I'd rather wish for a "#THICC-er" device if that gets me essentials like #Ethernet, #USB-A & -C as well as a #TRRS #HeadphoneJack / #HeadsetJack.

• I mean, I understand they won't make space for a underslung #Dock, a #Slimline - #ODD or god forbid #ExpressCard, and in terms of #tech I'd welcome #Thunderbolt over #OCuLink, but there's a reason I've not canceled the #NUCbook and if I didn't have to buy/procure #COTS products I'd likely just buy a #Pi500 with a #Powerbank and screen slapped on...

That being said the #Framework is still by a long margin the "least #enshittified" device on the market, and same goes for the #Fairphone devices...

• I just wished #FrameworkLaptop and Fairphone were just refusing the #Enshittification trend entirely, cuz I'd rather have a #Toughbook-Style device made out of #Thinkpadnium or even better #Nokianite than some fancy Aluminium stuff if that makes it more #repairable, #upradeable and espechally doesn't result in a #Downgrade.

Not to mention they don't have an #UltraNav-Style #Trackpoint and I do use that instead of a Trackpad.

• The only reason I'm not daily driving my #P11Z anymore is because until I got @OS1337 into a useable state it's hardware, which was already #LowEnd at launch, can barely run @bunsenlabs and thus is not an option for #DailyDriving #Linux #Desktop workflows anyways...

Not to mention it's an absolute #AssholeMove by all #Laptop manufacturers to not have a #ToolfreeSwappableBattery on their device!

Because there is no valid reason for that shit, when #Panasonic #Toughbook CF-19 were #waterproof with toolfree swappable battery and devices like the #Sony #Vaio #P11Z were thin & light yet had toolfree-swappable batteries...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsNwDbYnGu0

Personally, if I had to buy a #Laptop, it would be a @frameworkcomputer since the #NUCbook isn't ready...

And I'd encourage others to also make that choice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx-Lggf2TXc

It's just that it's missing a #ToolfreeSwappableBattery as essential & non-negotiable feature for me!