K.J. ElphinstoneIs empathy political?
A thread on autistic empathy.
A still-quite-popular belief about autistic people is that we lack empathy.
I think this is faulty logic.
Here's why:
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#ActuallyAutistic #Neurodivergent
#DoubleEmpathy #TheoryOfMind
Ed BullMost people assume everyone else thinks like them.
They don’t. And your brain knows this - but only from around age 4.
#Psychology #CognitiveScience #TheoryOfMind #Neuroscience #MentalHealth
Douglas Edwards 
When I praised Peter #Vermeulen's critical insights on the concept of #TheoryOfMind in #autism science, quoted in translation in the English Wikipedia, I lamented that they were from a #French book that hadn't been translated into English. Someone (I forget who) challenged me to read it in French, learning the language on the fly. Encouraged by having an easier time than I expected reading Vermeulen's bio article in the French Wikipedia with the aid of word lookup — and by my belief that English is functionally not a Germanic language at all, but a Romance language in Germanic disguise — I decided actually to go for it.
But now that a copy of the 3rd edition of "Autisme et émotions" is actually on my desk, I've discovered that there is an unexpected new angle. This book is itself a translation, INTO French, of Vermeulen's #Flemish original, "Autisme en emoties"!
This will be an even more interesting experience than I expected.
Aaron
Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈@ngate It's like the AI, not being alive and having no Free Will, won't behave like a human being should.....
Adrian SegarAre online meetings reducing our collective intelligence? New research says maybe. A close look at the experiment tells a different story.
#online #meetings #CollectiveIntelligence #TeamWork #TheoryOfMind #eventprofs
@KatyElphinstone The whole "lack of #empathy" idea builds on the #TheoryOfMind idea, which is rotten to the core. The basic paper applying it to #autistics (Baron-Cohen, Leslie, and Frith 1985) got the idea from an irredeemably flawed paper that had applied it to CHIMPANZEES[!] (Premack and Woodruff 1978). Both papers are hopelessly confused about what it even MEANS to say that a person — or an animal — has, or does not have, a "theory of mind". Both of these groups of researchers should have gotten clear on their concepts BEFORE conducting any experiments — and since they didn’t, both papers should have been refused publication.
Have you wondered where the claim that autistic people lack empathy came from?
The “jellyfish” study (2011) was influential in this, as it concluded that autistic people lacked Theory of Mind & capacity for moral reasoning.
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2011-01-autistic-mind.html
In one of the fictional scenarios given to participants, Janet tells a friend it’s safe to swim with jellyfish. She believes they’re harmless. The friend is stung and dies.
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#Autism #Empathy #Neurodiversity #TheoryofMind #ActuallyAutistic
Front PageChild neurologist explains the reason children lie, and it's surprisingly wholesome
https://fed.brid.gy/r/https://www.upworthy.com/child-lying-is-developmental-milestone
sayzardvitrupo (@vitrupo)
옥스퍼드 철학자 Timothy Williamson은 신념과 욕구로 행동을 가장 잘 설명할 때 정신 상태를 귀속한다고 설명하며, AI 시스템이 자율성과 실세계 상호작용을 갖추게 되면 동일한 기준으로 인간과 유사하게 정신 상태를 인정하지 않는 것이 더 이상 타당하지 않을 수 있다고 주장합니다. 이는 AI 윤리·정책 논의에 함의를 줍니다.
