chestasTasmanian Labor are fucking useless
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MozI feel sorry for the very serious people who are asked to explain just how stupid the Tassie Stadium boondoggle is when Utopia already did that. Nick Gruen, John Quiggin, I'm sure there are others. "financially it will be somewhere between a clusterfuck and a craptasm. The upside is that sports fans will have ample space inside to dodge the rotten fruit thrown by aggrieved taxpayers".
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Dave HollandA better question is… Will #Tasmania’s upper house do the right thing for the State and its people, and kick this irresponsible ego project that will break our state out of the park?
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Will crucial upper house MLCs be willing to kill Tasmania's AFL dream? By Lucy MacDonald The fate of Hobart's proposed stadium was never tied to the planning commission's report. Not when the government had long already made up its mind. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-18/tas-hobart-macquarie-point-stadium-can-it-pass-parliament/105786052 #Infrastructure #InfrastructureConstructionIndustry #AFL #Sport #StateandTerritoryGovernment #LucyMacDonald
The most unexpected thing about the Tasmanian Planning Commission's report into the proposed stadium in Hobart is they used the word "disbenefits" in the summary.
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Questions over Launceston council's upcoming trip to Japan at $60k cost to ratepayers
Tasmanian ratepayers will spend around $60,000 to send councillors and senior staff to a Japanese sister city that gave Launceston its macaque monkeys. One ratepayer believes it is "nothing more than a junket holiday".
DroppieI have bolded my fav para.
https://www.crikey.com.au/2025/08/22/tasmanian-politics-josh-willie-jeremy-rockliff-minority/
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A full month after Tasmania’s snap election in July, the new political reality has finally been made clear this week.
Liberal Premier Jeremy Rockliff survived another motion of no confidence on day one of the new parliament. But it’s less an endorsement of him, and more a rejection by the Greens of the bizarre political games played by Dean Winter’s Labor Party. Now Winter’s been replaced — everybody say “hi” to Josh Willie — leaving Rockliff to govern in minority. He has insufficient support on confidence and supply, and faces a crossbench that’s almost as big as his own party.
It looks messy. But how bad is it, really?
According to Bill Browne, director of the democracy and accountability program at The Australia Institute, this minority arrangement is actually fine, for the most part.
“There’s nothing in the Westminster system that says that a government needs formal confidence and supply agreements with the crossbench or anyone else. They’re neither necessary nor sufficient for stable government,” says Browne.
Indeed, Rockliff had a confidence and supply deal with Jacqui Lambie Network MPs after the March 2024 election that ultimately fell apart, leading to the vote of no confidence against him in June. No deal, no matter how formal, is binding, which is “kind of the point” of having parliament to keep the executive accountable.
“The government of the day has to treat maintaining confidence as something they do actively,” Browne says, pointing to leaders who have been able to govern productively without formal supply commitments. The confidence and supply status for Julia Gillard’s 2010 minority government went through ebbs and flows throughout her term. This did not stop her from leading the most productive federal government in history.
In state politics, former Greens leader Christine Milne told a panel event in Hobart that she introduced legislation to repeal Tasmania’s anti-homosexuality laws back in 1997, which Labor had shied away from for fear of alienating conservative rural voters. As the Greens held the balance of power, Liberal premier Tony Rundle told Milne that if she could convince the lower house to pass the bill, he would instruct the upper house Liberals to do the same. “Both Liberal and Labor were very pleased that it was my private member’s bill because the Greens got the blame for it. I’m very happy to have the blame for it!”
In the ACT in 2020, truth in political advertising laws were raised by Greens crossbencher Caroline Le Couteur and were passed with unanimous support from the Labor government and Liberal opposition — another example of what Browne calls “legislating from the crossbench” that presents more opportunity than it does challenge.
If either major party has the appetite they could work with the strong crossbench in both lower and upper houses to pass — and take credit for — progressive policy like truth in political advertising laws, reforming the integrity commission, bolstering right to information laws. “These policies are within the grasp of the Labor Party, if it’s serious about pursuing it,” Browne explains.
The worst case scenario in Tasmania is not instability but a government that refuses to collaborate at all, creating a logjam and potentially sending voters back to the polls again. The fear of public opinion on this is almost certainly why Rockliff has begun making some promises to the Greens and progressive independents, including a review of the salmon industry, phasing out greyhound racing, and dropping a plan to open up more native forest for logging. Good will, and all that.
It takes two houses to tango on policy, and Tasmania’s upper house is equally important to understand. The 15-seat Legislative Council is made up of three Liberals, three from Labor, one Greens, and eight independents. The crossbench outweighs the Labor and Liberal parties combined, which means the major parties cannot work together to pass even the legislation they agree on (like, say, an AFL stadium).
Independent council member Meg Webb says the top priority of this government must be a structural reform of Tasmania’s finances “beyond the annual budget cycle”, developed with involvement of both houses of parliament.
“The Legislative Council is well-positioned to continue its scrutiny of the executive,” Webb says. With a strong crossbench in both houses, she believes this parliament represents an opportunity to seize upon good ideas no matter where they come from. But it does require the Liberal government — and Labor, with its de facto opposition status — to operate in good faith.
What will prove to her that Rockliff is open to the opportunity? “[He] must include the Council MLCs, particularly the independent members, in any discussions and consultations as he does the Assembly MPs, rather than treat the upper house as a rubber stamp,” she explained. “Too often the upper house was completely left out of discussions regarding legislative priorities, policy briefings or other matters, or were informed as a fait accompli.”
In a collaborative gesture for the upper house, Rockliff has appointed independent Tania Rattray as the leader of government. While he put a “Stability Agreement” to the lower house crossbenchers that touches on some of the elements Webb would like to see, how he intends to work with the upper house this time around remains to be seen.
There are rumours — and I can’t stress enough, just rumours — that new Labor leader Josh Willie might go back to the Greens to negotiate for their support again, pick up three independents and “steal” minority government from Rockliff’s Libs. The idea is that Willie from the Labor’s left faction will curry more favour with the Greens and progressive indies than Winter could from the right. Labor cannot form government without the Greens.
John Curtin did it to Robert Menzies in 1941, although one might argue that Tasmanian politics has not yet reached the crisis levels of World War II.
“Whether you’d see that happen so early in this new term, or what the Premier in consultation with the Governor would make of it, I’m not sure,” Browne says. “But it wouldn’t have to be right away either – [it might only come] after the Rockliff government is given some time, and fails to address the environmental, budgetary and integrity concerns that the crossbenches staked their election on.”
This ride is not over yet.
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#AusPol #WeAreSelfishCruelBastards #WeAreTotallyFscked #ClimateCrisis #TasPol
https://www.crikey.com.au/2025/08/22/tasmanian-politics-josh-willie-jeremy-rockliff-minority/
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A full month after Tasmania’s snap election in July, the new political reality has finally been made clear this week.
Liberal Premier Jeremy Rockliff survived another motion of no confidence on day one of the new parliament. But it’s less an endorsement of him, and more a rejection by the Greens of the bizarre political games played by Dean Winter’s Labor Party. Now Winter’s been replaced — everybody say “hi” to Josh Willie — leaving Rockliff to govern in minority. He has insufficient support on confidence and supply, and faces a crossbench that’s almost as big as his own party.
It looks messy. But how bad is it, really?
According to Bill Browne, director of the democracy and accountability program at The Australia Institute, this minority arrangement is actually fine, for the most part.
“There’s nothing in the Westminster system that says that a government needs formal confidence and supply agreements with the crossbench or anyone else. They’re neither necessary nor sufficient for stable government,” says Browne.
Indeed, Rockliff had a confidence and supply deal with Jacqui Lambie Network MPs after the March 2024 election that ultimately fell apart, leading to the vote of no confidence against him in June. No deal, no matter how formal, is binding, which is “kind of the point” of having parliament to keep the executive accountable.
“The government of the day has to treat maintaining confidence as something they do actively,” Browne says, pointing to leaders who have been able to govern productively without formal supply commitments. The confidence and supply status for Julia Gillard’s 2010 minority government went through ebbs and flows throughout her term. This did not stop her from leading the most productive federal government in history.
In state politics, former Greens leader Christine Milne told a panel event in Hobart that she introduced legislation to repeal Tasmania’s anti-homosexuality laws back in 1997, which Labor had shied away from for fear of alienating conservative rural voters. As the Greens held the balance of power, Liberal premier Tony Rundle told Milne that if she could convince the lower house to pass the bill, he would instruct the upper house Liberals to do the same. “Both Liberal and Labor were very pleased that it was my private member’s bill because the Greens got the blame for it. I’m very happy to have the blame for it!”
In the ACT in 2020, truth in political advertising laws were raised by Greens crossbencher Caroline Le Couteur and were passed with unanimous support from the Labor government and Liberal opposition — another example of what Browne calls “legislating from the crossbench” that presents more opportunity than it does challenge.
If either major party has the appetite they could work with the strong crossbench in both lower and upper houses to pass — and take credit for — progressive policy like truth in political advertising laws, reforming the integrity commission, bolstering right to information laws. “These policies are within the grasp of the Labor Party, if it’s serious about pursuing it,” Browne explains.
The worst case scenario in Tasmania is not instability but a government that refuses to collaborate at all, creating a logjam and potentially sending voters back to the polls again. The fear of public opinion on this is almost certainly why Rockliff has begun making some promises to the Greens and progressive independents, including a review of the salmon industry, phasing out greyhound racing, and dropping a plan to open up more native forest for logging. Good will, and all that.
It takes two houses to tango on policy, and Tasmania’s upper house is equally important to understand. The 15-seat Legislative Council is made up of three Liberals, three from Labor, one Greens, and eight independents. The crossbench outweighs the Labor and Liberal parties combined, which means the major parties cannot work together to pass even the legislation they agree on (like, say, an AFL stadium).
Independent council member Meg Webb says the top priority of this government must be a structural reform of Tasmania’s finances “beyond the annual budget cycle”, developed with involvement of both houses of parliament.
“The Legislative Council is well-positioned to continue its scrutiny of the executive,” Webb says. With a strong crossbench in both houses, she believes this parliament represents an opportunity to seize upon good ideas no matter where they come from. But it does require the Liberal government — and Labor, with its de facto opposition status — to operate in good faith.
What will prove to her that Rockliff is open to the opportunity? “[He] must include the Council MLCs, particularly the independent members, in any discussions and consultations as he does the Assembly MPs, rather than treat the upper house as a rubber stamp,” she explained. “Too often the upper house was completely left out of discussions regarding legislative priorities, policy briefings or other matters, or were informed as a fait accompli.”
In a collaborative gesture for the upper house, Rockliff has appointed independent Tania Rattray as the leader of government. While he put a “Stability Agreement” to the lower house crossbenchers that touches on some of the elements Webb would like to see, how he intends to work with the upper house this time around remains to be seen.
There are rumours — and I can’t stress enough, just rumours — that new Labor leader Josh Willie might go back to the Greens to negotiate for their support again, pick up three independents and “steal” minority government from Rockliff’s Libs. The idea is that Willie from the Labor’s left faction will curry more favour with the Greens and progressive indies than Winter could from the right. Labor cannot form government without the Greens.
John Curtin did it to Robert Menzies in 1941, although one might argue that Tasmanian politics has not yet reached the crisis levels of World War II.
“Whether you’d see that happen so early in this new term, or what the Premier in consultation with the Governor would make of it, I’m not sure,” Browne says. “But it wouldn’t have to be right away either – [it might only come] after the Rockliff government is given some time, and fails to address the environmental, budgetary and integrity concerns that the crossbenches staked their election on.”
This ride is not over yet.
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#AusPol #WeAreSelfishCruelBastards #WeAreTotallyFscked #ClimateCrisis #TasPol
Oceania ElectsAustralia (Tasmania): Clark MP Josh Willie has been elected unopposed as the new leader of Tasmanian Labor (centre-left), with Janie Finlay as his deputy. He replaces Dean Winter, who had been the leader since 2024.
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#Taspol #Australia #auspol #Tasmania
John QuigginMy question yesterday has been answered. "No Deals" isn't a sustainable position. But unlikely that Labor will move to reverse Dean Winter's disaster any time soon
"Dean Winter will remain in Parliament". Maybe, but more likely to find a need for time with family #taspol