Sex drive is a spectrum and I posit the same forces that prevent people from respecting Asexuality/Graysexuality also gave us slut-shaming

For example fascist ideas of "cultural degeneracy" that sex positivity will corrupt polite society is a rejection of the plurality of human experience.

People will be into weird kinks, people will do more sexual stuff than you, this is normal and natural.

#Queermisia #Asexuality #Graysexual #SexPositivity

@esvrld

This just in, I'm a nazi for saying that a text telling fervently devoted followers to "stone all gay people to death"[1] from a position of cosmic authority is in fact morally bankrupt

[1]
https://sunnah.com/abudawud:4463

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Sunan Abi Dawud 4463 - Prescribed Punishments (Kitab Al-Hudud) - ูƒุชุงุจ ุงู„ุญุฏูˆุฏ - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (ุตู„ู‰ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ูˆ ุณู„ู…)

Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad (saws) in English and Arabic

@petergriffinkinnie

The passage being bad is a response to your argument, you're trying to say that people have nuanced relationships with relgious texts, and I agree that in the sense that people bend over backwards to not read what it actually says.

The fact that it says "stone gay people to death" and your response is "but have you considered that not every muslim believes that" is like saying that people have nuanced relationships with mein kampf.

If a text says stone gay people to death it is morally bankrupt, you havent actually provided any of your own arguments just used long winded prose to allude to the fact that "arguments exist" as to why it isnt actually anti gay to say stone gay people to death

#Queermisia #Islam

@petergriffinkinnie

I think people do that because of a sense of identity. Its easier to do mental gymnastics than just admit the a text that forms a foundational part of your community, family cohesion, morality, understanding of mortality and cultural identity is just irrevocably evil.

I'm willing to hear an interpretation you like if you want to link one, but I don't expect much for these reasons.

An explanation of how smart people can believe ridiculous things when it becomes tied to culture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y201QzDdzbg

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...but intelligent people believe in God

YouTube

@petergriffinkinnie

What other possible interpretation is there of "If a man who is not married is seized committing sodomy, he will be stoned to death." I'd love to know, I would prefer it the text wasn't fundamentally antigay actually

#Queermisia #Islam

@thegarbagebird

Islamic texts are anti gay

Most muslims aren't fundamentalists and ignore or whitewash their own texts

Conservative Islam is a product of western imperialism

Progressive muslims can be allies to queer people

Nonetheless they still venerate and promote a horrifically violent text

Nothing justifies violence against random muslims

People are complicated all of these things are true at the same time

#Islam #Queermisia #Quran

@petergriffinkinnie

ANY relationship with a text that commands the genocide of gay people that isn't out and out rejection of that text is anti gay.

#Queermisia #Genocide

@petergriffinkinnie

Well lets take the stone gay people verse. That is the translation provided by sunnah.com. Either the translation is accurate or its not. If its not then I'll retract that claim, if it is then the scripture condones killing gay people and no one should defer to it religiously on any moral matter.

And if they worship a god that thinks stoning gay people is a good message to pass down then they worship an evil god.

But its not just this one verse, I took a small selection of offensive verses for brevity

#Quran #Queermisia

@petergriffinkinnie

As I've said in another comment if you promote or venerate a text that says to stone gay people to death then you are promoting that message

#Quran #Islam #Queermisia

@InternetEh I am queer and no muslim has ever given me shit for it, but that doesnt excuse the verse saying to stone gay people to death. Thats all I'm saying, and venerating or promoting a text that says to do that indirectly promotes violence towards gay people

Edit I just realised I have been given shit for it by conservative muslims online that use their scripture as justification

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