@ottona @heinsc @heiseonline damit ist #GnuTaler IMHO "Bons, nur digital" und damit wertlos bzw. nicht vergleichbar mit "#digitalerEuro" oder auch nur 08/15-Zahlungsanbietern, weil nicht fungibel wie Geld!

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monero

Und ja Fans von GNU Taler vergleichen es mit Zahlungsdiensten nur um komplett zu ignorieren dass es komplett in allen 3 Dingen scheitert:

  • Akzeptanzstellen
  • Umtauschstellen
  • Nutzbarkeit

Sag' Bescheid wenn #NowPayments und/oder #ChangeNow (oder andere #Zahlungsdienstleister bzw. #Exchanges) GNU Taler listen bzw. akzeptieren…

https://nowpayments.io
https://changenow.io

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@scotty86 nicht wirklich.

Gibt genug Anbieter die #Monero können, vorallem weil @RoteHilfe ja kein Problem damit hat sich zu identifizieren und meines Wissens konsequent an #KYC, #AML & #CTF-Regularien hält.

Und ja, #NowPayments macht auch #Swapping von #Shitcoins automatisch und kümmert sich darum. D.h. Leute können auch mit #Shitcoins wie $TRUMP & $PEPE spenden, wenn die jene nicht explizit ablehnen!
https://nowpayments.io/donation-tools

Ansonsten gibt's auch @Liberapay als Spendenplattform:
https://liberapay.com

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@lea yes, if your merchant accepts #Monero:

https://nowpayments.io

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@icedquinn @cwebber Then I recommend affected people to shame said banks and start hounding them with public complaints at regulators.

At least in #Germany banks are regulated as #Utility down to the point that espechally the public-owned ones (#Sparkasse) have been sentenced to accept clients against their will and endure anything that isn't as per ruling of law or a judge "illegal conduct"...

Even if that means people need to do #SEPA [or once launched for real globally: #wero] transfers or learn how to use #Monero and #ChangeNow / #NowPayments or similar payment service providers...

"If there's a will there's a way!"

Klage gegen Sparkasse erfolgreich: Bank muss NPD-Konto einrichten

Gegen ihren Willen muss eine Sparkasse ein Konto für die Rechtsextremen einrichten. Die Bank hat gegen das Urteil Antrag auf Berufung gestellt.

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@bjoern @ustralien EBEN!

Das haben "V.R." #China (#UnionPay) und #Japan (#JCB) international gelöst…

Ich hab von letzterem z.B. keine Händler im Einzelhandel gesehen (außer wir zählen #girocard dazu!)…

  • Wahrscheinlich gabs vorm Februar 2022 mehr Akzeptanzstellen für #Mir in der #EU als es #wero-Akzeptanzstellen außerhalb gibt!

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@wiligl@mastodon.online find' ich auch, denn es brauht [ernsthafte & globale Alternativen](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/115048760709171507) zum #US-Quadropol #AMEX, #VISA, #MasterCard & #PayPal! - Alles andere ist auf dem Niveau von #Mir und damit untauglich... https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(Zahlungssystem)

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@emilyyoung @Natanox @R0B0_G0D the real messy part is that #VISA & #MasterCard are a bunch of shitty hipocrites.

Once said CCs cancel their pseudonymus #AVS option merely using CC numbers and/or refuse to process payments for pr0n they gonna bite the dust.

I'd say let the christofacist reactionaries "choke" on their egos and let that be a warning sign against criminalizing what adults do consensually…

@psilocervine the main cost here is bookkeeping and getting onboarded.

  • Shure #NowPayments only charges like 1% fees and offers to bulk together transfers but KYC & KYB with their partners is painfully slow.

Mind you a single #IndieDeveloper usually doesn't even make enough revenue to ROI even external tax advisors and accountants subcontracted on a as-needed basis.

  • And that's not eben touching some regulatory madness...

@heartshadows @JamesBaker you have that with cash too, abeit you can't steal the cash bills from the robbers back.

  • Not that there ain't custodial options as well, but if I were to wire-transfer money to a scammer, I'd also have no option to recoup that money either.

Not to mention there are solutions like #PaperWallets that can act as #ColdWallets and allow securing funds through traditional means (i.e. [metal]card in a [bank]vault), so it's neither an unsolved nor unsolveable problem: My suggested options (#NowPayments & #ChangeNow) do offer a #fiat payout onto a bank account at a low fee.

And yes, espechally Bitcoin holders of significant amounts face kidnappings at an elevated rate.

@thelobdegg np.

I just think it's important to know that #Valve is in a better negotiation position than the payment processors.

They could've easily used their captive clientele and moved to #NowPayments but they chose not to becaise #GabeN doesn't give a damn about "#FreezePeach" bbut only his bottom line

https://nowpayments.io

#sarcasm

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@heartshadows @JamesBaker Lets just say that #Monero not only never supported all the #NFT bullshit but actually worked against it given the abuse of "#Ordinals" aka. attempts to do that on the tx_extra field.

As for Money Laundering, existing provisions cover that well enough, cuz even #NowPayments and #ChangeNow do #KYC & #KYB their clients, and any bona-fide business does maintain records of billings and has absolute basics of accounting in place, so that makes them unattractive, espechally for any ML operations as they do cooperate on duely issued warrants and have been known for that.

  • In fact, the clamp-down on Monero did create a huge industry of middlemen that facilitate exchange of it into clean #shitcoins to the point that a whole industry of #crypto #trackers emerge that try to trace shit - like #Chainalysis & #IntegraFEC.

So even if DNDLs sit on millions if not billions in Monero, they can't cash that out because even the shadiest of #Banksters in the most shady of Bank will ask "Where da money come from?" and will likely seize any funds that have no explaination.

  • This is why even if someone had my IBAN & BIC and were to send me illicit funds, that would never show up on my account balance nor would I even get questioned about this TradFinance "dusting" attack because it would instantly get frozen by my bank, reported to FIU and unless I were to ask about it, everyone would rightfully know that I don't know cuz I'm not into that shit.

I stay on the legal side out of principle!

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