@Mer__edith To me using #aws shows that you have more #money than #sense and that @signalapp is a #MoneyBurningParty, thus (like #ICQ before) not #sustainable long-term.

• I mean that #MobileCoin #shitcoin doesn't even work so #Signal is too stupid to run a #PumpAndDump #scam wIth 100% pre-mined #shitcoins!

@debby @monocles @Stuxhost well, @delta / #deltaChat is not using #XMPP+#OMEMO (unlike #monoclesChat & #gajim) but #PGP/MIME on regular #eMail, which makes it way easier to setup in organizations as not "yet another server needed" and also easier to comply with mandatory #archival laws in #business use-cases.

• #Session & #Signal, like #Telegram & #WhatsApp, do not have their #backend #opensource|d nor allow #SelfHosting and demand #PII like #PhoneNumbers for registration if not useage for no valid reason. Plus they are not just able but obviously willing to snitch on their users (something neither DeltaChat nor monocles chat demand or even can as both do 100% #SelfCustody of all the keys!)

• As for #sustainability, monocles is financed by #subscribers (they charge like €2 p.m. for mail & chat) and they can be paid completely anonymously (#Monero & #CashByMail!), whereas #Signal is a #MoneyBurningParty which engages in #Shitcoin-#Scams (see #MobileCoin!) for no valid reason…

@moh_kohn except @signalapp too is a #centralized, #SingleVendir & #SingleProvider solution that fully falls under #CliudAct and thus CANNOT comply with #GDPR & #BDSG as a matter of principle since this digital rquivalent of #ExtraordinaryRendition is inherently incompatible!

• Use #XMPP+#OMEMO & #PGP/MIME with #SelfCustody if all the #Keys for real #EndToEndEncryption that doesn't rely on a #VC #MoneyBurningParty.

@monocles / #monoclesChat, @gajim / #gajim & @delta / #deltaChat, @thunderbird / #Thunderbird do support that!

@therainingmonkey IMHO #Signal is jist another #HoneyPot like #ANØM / #OperationIronside/ #OperationTrøjanShield and #CryptoAG / #MINERVA / #Rubikon before it.

• Why else do you think they are incorporated in the #USA despite #CloudAct, run as #VC #MoneyBurningParty & ain't forced to yeet all Phone Numbers from #Russia, #NorthKorea, #Iran and "P.R." #China?

@signalapp is good.

• It's so good that it scratches that part of my mind that doesn't allow good to exist without precondition....

So I'd never count on anyone not talking, espechally @Mer__edith when faced with lifetime in jail for not doing so.

#sarcasm

@halva @lynn @signalapp @deilann

The problem is one needs to literally acquire a phone number and have access to it, and the demand of a phone number itself is bad. This makes it unnecessarily complex and expensive compared to using @monocles / #monoclesChat.
(Cuz if I've to pay to communicate, I might just choose a provider that isn't a #VC #MoneyBurningParty but a long-term sustainable solution based off #OpenStandards!)

• I'm sorry for your location. My sincere condolences!

Still, #Signal doesn't allow #SelfCustody of all the keys & #SelfHosting, which makes it vulnerable as a #proprietary #centralized, #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider solution.

• Just because @Mer__edith isn't having #Roskonmadnozr pointing a gun at her head doesn't mean she'd risk jail for a user when push comes to shove.

And with #CloudAct on one hand and #Trump wanting to "Speedrun Hitler", I'd not rely on Signal.

• The "Metadata" #FUD is just a marketing bs because Signal will comply with warrants, whereas nothing prevents me from buying a Thin client, setting up an #OnionService to tunnel everything over @torproject / #Tor and rig it to disconnect power if tampered with or upon command.

I have setup comms for critical operations (incl. helping people flee Russia!) and I'd rather choose #OnionShare over #Signal if #Metadata is a real concern.

• Internet Access, even in "P.R." #China, is something feasible to workout given the massive prevalence of public #WiFi. Also it's easier to spoof/anonymize a MAC than an #IMEI or even #IMSI, so making one dependent on #PhoneNumbers to even sign up is inherently bad!