@praustrian @praustrian @midway @forza4galicia @GrumpyRabbit

There is a market economy distorted by government intervention.

Now remember kids, that’s what we call a #MixedEconomy

TECI Social

@forza4galicia @midway @GrumpyRabbit

Fair enough.

#Progressivism is far left, and any left wing (or right wing) ideology that supports or excuses extrajudicial violence to a broad degree is most certainly extremism. Typically you will see this in left wing #anarchism or right wing #nationalism.

I call certain ideologies "far" because of their relative isolation from other ideologies. #Nationalism is quite a bit different than #Conservatism, and #Progessivism is quite a bit different than #Liberalism.

If you go online, it looks like the far left is generally identified by opposing #capitalism. Not sure that I agree with that categorization, I don't think it's extreme to oppose #capitalism if you support a #MixedEconomy, but there is a lot of overlap between #progressivism and support for #Marxism, #socialism, #communism, etc. so there's still a lot of overlap between my position and the general public's perception.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-left_politics?wprov=sfla1
Far-left politics - Wikipedia

"Hothousing for development: Sorting out the mixed economy in Mexico and Chile" by David Avilés and Adam David Morton:

#importsubstitutionindustrialisation #LatinAmerica #mixedeconomy #primitiveaccumulation #statecapitalism

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0308518X251337606

The idea of mixing capitalism and socialism in a “fluffy” path is proposed as a solution to the shortcomings of both systems. This notion is especially popular among well-meaning liberals who point to European social democracies as examples of successful mixed economies. However, any deeper examination reveals contradictions and challenges inherent in attempting to merge these fundamentally opposing systems.

Capitalism vs. Socialism: The Fundamental Contradiction

Capitalism is characterized by private property, markets, and the private ownership of capital. It operates on exploitative wage labour, where workers sell their labour power to capitalists, who, in turn, use this labour to create commodities sold in capitalist markets. The primary goal is profit maximization, this leads to class divisions: the capitalist class (a small, wealthy minority) and the working class (the huge majority who sell their labour).

Socialism, on the other hand, advocates for the communal ownership of the means of production, such as land, resources, and factories. It emphasizes worker control and management of enterprises, aiming for a society where economic decisions are made democratically to serve the needs of the majority. Socialism seeks to abolish wage labour and private property in favour of collective ownership and cooperative management.

The Mixed Economy Myth

Proponents of a mixed economy argue that integrating elements of both systems can harness the benefits of capitalism (such as innovation and efficiency) while mitigating its downsides (like inequality and exploitation) through socialist policies (like social safety nets and public services). However, this view is blind to the deeper ideological and practical conflicts between capitalism and socialism.

  • Incompatibility of Goals: Capitalism thrives on competition, profit, and private ownership, which inherently leads to inequality and exploitation. Socialism eliminates these foundations by promoting equality, collective ownership, and cooperation. Trying to mix these systems results in a compromised form of capitalism rather than any genuine blend.
  • Social Democracy: Often cited as successful examples of mixed economies, European social democracies (e.g., Scandinavian countries) actually represent capitalism with extensive welfare states rather than hybrids of capitalism and socialism. These countries maintain capitalist structures of private ownership and markets while providing comprehensive social services funded through taxation. Historically, the rise of social democracy was influenced by the threat of socialism, leading capitalist states to adopt welfare measures to appease the working class and avoid revolutionary upheaval.
  • Sustainability Issues: The concessions of social democracy are unsustainable in the long run within a capitalist framework. As capitalism requires constant growth and profit maximization, social programs are frequently under threat of cuts, especially during economic downturns. The capitalist class has a vested interest in reducing welfare spending to increase profits, leading to a erosion of social benefits over time.
  • The Role of Imperialism

    An often overlooked aspect of social democracies is their reliance on imperialist exploitation. Wealthy nations frequently sustain their high living standards and social programs through economic relationships that exploit poorer countries. This global inequality allows rich nations to enjoy the benefits of capitalism and socialism-like welfare simultaneously, but it perpetuates global injustice and dependency.

    Moving Beyond the Mixed Economy

    For those who seek to address the issues of capitalism, the solution lies not in a superficial mix but in a fundamental restructuring towards socialism. This involves:

    • Democratizing the Economy: Shifting control of enterprises from private owners to workers and communities.
    • Abolishing Wage Labour: Ensuring that all workers benefit directly from the fruits of their labour, rather than enriching a small capitalist class.
    • Prioritizing Human Needs: Redirecting economic activity to meet the needs of the majority rather than the profit motives of a few.

    Conclusion

    While the idea of mixing capitalism and socialism might seem appealing to our more progressive ##mainstreaming crew, it ultimately fails to address the root contradictions between these systems. Socialism involves a profound transformation of economic and social relations, to build a path to a society based on equality, cooperation, and democratic control.

    They are different projects, we need pathways towards this equitable and just society https://opencollective.com/open-media-network

    ##spiky ##fluffy # socialdemocracy ##MixedEconomy

    https://hamishcampbell.com/we-need-pathways-towards-an-equitable-and-just-society/

    #fluffy #mainstreaming #MixedEconomy #spiky

    mainstreaming – Hamish Campbell

    Mixed Economic System: Characteristics, Examples, Pros & Cons

    A mixed economic system is one that features characteristics of both capitalism and socialism.

    Investopedia

    @deadheat
    Everyone manages the #community how they can and with parameters set forth in the job description.

    Not unique to #communism. We have it in a so-called #mixedEconomy too. You might not see it but it happens behind the scenes.

    Even the #anarcist will try to protect the sick and #vulnerable in their little community from attack. Its about #caring and not caring, not cap/com.

    @maximilia
    This is going to sound super unspecatular but a #mixedEconomy that includes some #taxation for public benefit! ...

    ... ?

    Although depending where you live maybe every road is a corporate-owned toll road, and there are no #publicGoods that helped society, not sure.

    RT @ocasio2018@birdsite

    Oh, did you think we’re through organizing NYC?

    We’re just getting started. Our next goal: Elect NY’s next Attorney General 💪🏽

    Let the haters keep tweeting. Our job is to stay focused, knock doors, and change the world.🚪🌎

    #tytlive #tjds #empirefiles #redactedtonight
    #DemocraticSocialism #MixedEconomy #AWorldThatWorksForEveryone

    TFW the #fediverse has been live a couple years and your post appears to be the very first one to mention #MixedEconomy.