@oceane @emurphy @dev_m @toffy @pixelfed @dansup @mcspadden I hope the conversation to evolve into something more constructive. For example, the realization that #decentralized #fedi tools need to be fundamentally designed to integrate user needs for security (which includs privacy) without reliance on #MACFANG tech giants. Statusnet, Mastodon, Lemmy, etc were a good start. But now we know the problem: they fail to make CF redundant.

@cobweb
I don’t think a threat model drives this. It’s a conflict of social interest. It’s an economic move not an infosec move. I boycott the #MACFANG/ #CAGEMAFIA empire. Thus, I do whatever is within my power to ensure they don’t profit from my data.

As you say, defederating from them does not reduce their data access. But it still undermines the creation of data they feed on. Isolate them & ppl will leave.
@Viss @film_girl

@vfrmedia @dosch Preachin’ to the choir. I boycott #MACFANG, avoid Twitter, deGoogled my outdated smartphone which has no SMS chip & only FOSS apps, refuse to send #email. Sounds like a great talk but I’m already damn near living in a cave. So, I don’t see how I could benefit from that seminar. I know a lot of people who need that education, but those are precisely the people who would not go.

Of my four #lesserOfEvil #polls, this one shows there’s still a lot of work to do in terms of informing the public about #GAFAM/ #MACFANG wrongdoing.

As someone who tracks dirt on these companies, #Google is clearly the lesser of evils and it’s not even close.

I suspect the bad wording in the poll was mention of “surveillance advertiser”. All three are surveillance advertisers, but much of MS’s wrongdoing is outside of the advertising scope. Some ppl voted MS on the basis of less snooping.

Why? I’m often asked if I live in a cave upon revealing that I #boycott #MACFANG (#Microsoft, #Amazon, #Cloudflare, #Facebook, #Apple, #Netflix, #Google), that I will not email anyone whose accts traverse those assets or even share an email address with them, that I boycott all mobile phone services & most banks. Maybe I should find a cave.
Feature request to all ESPs¹— Please give me an account that refuses to connect to #MACFANG entities. E.g. If I send a msg to bob@<some vanity domain that leads to Outlook.com>, please bounce the msg back to me with an error. My settings should have a list of tickboxes for surveillance advertisers so I can control which ones to trust. 1. ESP: #email service provider
@aral @RLetot @aral The #MACFANG tech giants are not all equally evil, and sometimes you may have to favor one over another if you can’t boycott them all, but someone who says MS is less evil than Google & Facebook doesn’t have the big picture. I have an idea where that comes from though.
Some ppl might recall pre-Snowden days when there was speculation about echelon, there was a Swiss service called #supervillainizer which generated email noise to flood snoops w/false leads. Might that be a strategy in the hunt for #abortion patients? People who are sure to never need an abortion could generate msgs that leads #MACFANG AIs to falsely flag decoys.
It’s amazing how hard-assed disciplined I am about boycotting #MACFANG corps, yet if there is a pile of cookies containing chocolate in my kitchen there is no hope for them lasting the day. Cookies are like crack to me the way #Amazon is like crack to most normies.
This is how I check whether an #email address is hosted by a #MACFANG tech giant privacy abuser: “torsocks dig @8.8.8.8 -t mx -q "$domain" +noclass +nocomments +nostats +short +tcp +nosearch” I thought that was sufficient, but someone with an email domain that passes that test has “Outlook.com” in the “Received:” headers of a msg they sent me. How can my test be improved?