@wyatt8740 @tauon plugs shouldn't have fuses, but your appliances and your circuit breaker!
If it was my decision, IEC 60906-1 and IEC 60309 would be mandatory with no permissible exceptions!
@topher yeah, #NEMA standards are cringe and lack like 100 years behind #Germany...
The only reason the #EU didn't migrate to #IEC60601-1 is because they estimated that to create 700.000t of eWaste per year for 75 years...
Needless to say RCD-S are mandatory in Germany as are electrical upgrades in terms of safety once changes are done to a breaker panel...
And they'll trip at like 15-30mA at most!
Like Germany did up the madated wire diameter for 16A corcuits from 1,5mm to 2,5mm solid copper core on three-phase loads like stoves...
Sadly #IEC60309 connectors aren't mandated on stoves so instead people have to screw in shit into a wall terminal panel, which I think is just bad.
So bad that it's basically the norm in commercial and industrial setups!
@topher if you think the devil fork #DS1363 is an upgrade, wait till you've used #Schuko or even better, #CEE & #IEC wall outlets and connectors!
Like #IEC60309 and #IEC60906-1 are idiot-proof by design and the latter one is just marginally wider than a #Europlug whilst supporting 16A instead of judt 2,5A as well as being polarity-safe AND grounded!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuko
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60309
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60906-1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60320
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europlug
@icing Actually,
#IEC60906_1 and #IEC60309 are electrically and mechanically superior connectors!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60906-1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60309
@Robocod Nach der Logik könnten wor auch wie in #Japan den Schutzleiter nur zum Anschrauben anbieten oder gleich blanke Drahtenden in Wago-Klemmen stecken statt Schutzkontakt-Steckdosen (besser wäre neben #IEC60309 nur noch #IEC60906-1 anstelle.von #Schuko-Steckdosen) zu installieren...
Und es gibt IMHO keinen rationalen.Grund gegen #CEE-Stecker auch im Privatbereich!
https://sueden.social/@Robocod/111101863730632948
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60309
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60906-1
@[email protected] bin mir gerade unsicher, ob das hier ein Prinzipiending ist. Zu den alten Steckern usw sage ich mal nichts. Hat ja seinen Grund, wieso die verboten sind inzwischen. Fachlich kann ich dir nur sagen, dass wir auf Schutz setzen und nicht Verstand. Sonst könnten wir auch blanke Drähte verlegen mit Warnhinweisen. Außerdem wo ist das Problem bei verdrehten Außenleitern an einer Herdanschlussdose?
@Robocod Das Problem ist dass dies fehleranfälliger ist als es sein sollte und angesichts der Existenz von #IEC60309-Steckern wie Steckdosen maximalst unbequem ist ind einzig und allein dazu dient damit irgendwer €50+ dafür kassieren kann...
Es ist ein unnötiges Setup dass so IMHO nicht existieren sollte.
Bei ind der Wand montierten Geräten wie Durchlauferhitzer die eh nicht trivial austauschbar sind mag es gründe dafür geben, bei normalen Elektrogeräten sehe ich das nicht so!
@TechConnectify And as sadly as the @EU_Commission won't adopt #IEC60906 connectors due to #eWaste I think they should make #IEC60309 mandatory for ekectric stoves and other electronics that require more than 230V @ 16A single-phase and ain't installed into the wall like some pass-through boiler/heater...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60309
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60906-1#Possibility_of_acceptance_in_European_Union
@TechConnectify The @EU_Commission is having none of that shit and basically mandated #Type2 connectors because those are an open standard and there are cheap means to have portable chargers that just plug into #IEC60309 outlets as are common in industry and even heavy duty outdoor electronics...
@indrora @Toble_Miner Personally I'd choose something like 8-pin PCIe_12V_AUX voltage connectors like MiniFit Jr 5557-8 as they are normed with up to 150W...
https://pinoutguide.com/Power/ATX12V1-EPS12V_pinout.shtml
If this was a high-current application I'd choose #IEC60309 connectors instead...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60309#Extra-low_voltage_variant
Kevin Karhan 
godspeed you! big animal
Kevin Karhan 
