⬆️ @slotos
>> And #Palestine didn’t have proper statehood…
Massive difference between "didn't have" and "rejected" statehood.
See #EcstasyAndAmnesia. #Arafat’s refusal to accept the deal offered at #CampDavid—a state on ALL of #Gaza & 90+% of #WestBank, including a capital in #EastJerusalem…
https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/112441811297761370
What was foregone at #CampDavid was ALL that PLUS what stood to be gained afterward: #statehood, #Jerusalem, evacuation of #settlements…
⬆️ @ml
>> It didn't start in October 7th.
I know that. Where do you want to start?
See #EcstasyAndAmnesia
Also https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/115177284852964939
⬆️ @stuffifound
>> It didn't start that 7th of Oct, it started in 1948.
Also, let's not forget who started it in 1948. #Palestinians have amnesia AGAIN, as they do after every major conflict.
#Palestine hasn't been free in over 500 yrs (under #Ottoman rule since 1517, #British after 1917), but that was not a problem for them until #Israel came into existence in 1947.
Summary ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/112441506433338888
Paywall-free archive of original ➡️ https://archive.ph/G5rAX#selection-769.417-769.630
⬆️ @Nazani
>> Perhaps the obsession with sacred #martyrdom precludes "what if we end up worse off" reflection.
Yes, exactly! As the author of the original essay wrote:
"A people on the cusp of #liberation instead suffered war deaths and the moral rot caused by the veneration of suicide and murder."
#EcstasyAndAmnesia #VenerationOfSuicide #InTheirName #Palestine #Israel.
⬆️ @Tattered
>> #Freedom that is rewriting school textbooks to erase ideas incompatible with Hindutva? As soon as you accept a few million deaths for a better world, you have become a monster.
You have pivoted away from whether accepting a #TwoStateSolution proposed by #UN for #BritishIndia as well as for #BritishMandate in #Palestine was better for all.
#Hindutva is a different monster.
#EcstasyAndAmnesia is #worthReading if you haven't read it already ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/112441485737099304
⬆️ Time to boost 🧵 #EcstasyAndAmnesia again… #WorthReading
Hard to miss the sudden and magical end to the conflict as #Biden retires.
Noting that correlation ≠ causation, I posit that the conflict was contrived for a specific objective, that objective was achieved, and like #DamascusProtocol, it was NOT dreamt up in consultation with #Palestinians, nor had #Palestinian interest in mind.
Once again, ecstasy will subside, amnesia will set in, and Palestinians will let others fight #inTheirName
⬆️ @Skyye
>> Bullshit. A quick google shows: Israel gained some territory formerly granted to Palestinian Arabs under the United Nations resolution in 1947. A map showing progression of Israel controlled land shows Israel steadily gaining almost the entire area.
It's not "bullshit".
I'm going to be a bit more patient and tolerant because you seem uninformed, not a hostile troll.
Do you know WHEN #Israel gained that territory and what happened between 1947 and THEN? See #EcstasyAndAmnesia 🙂
⬆️ @karlggestd
>> it is no surprise that…
You didn't get the memo? 😂
>> …we have taken the side of the first Nazi government at the first opportunity. But apparently it doesn't matter what the members of that government themselves say. You have chosen to look the other way. Like so many others in the last century.
You have amnesia. See #EcstasyAndAmnesia
>> I think you’re being sealioned by someone conveniently skipping over past & current history of Israel’s illegal occupation of Gaza.
See the many posts and long threads on my timeline regarding the conflict in the #MiddleEast, many of which are readily accessible through hashtags in my profile.
One of the best is #EcstasyAndAmnesia, based on a 3rd party essay that will keep you from "conveniently skipping over past & current history of Israel’s illegal occupation of Gaza."
⬆️ @ajaykaul10
Yes, #Nasser was not just opposed to #Israel, he was ecstatic too.
See the hashtag #EcstasyAndAmnesia in which I summarized a very well researched essay by #ShanyMor on the situation in the #MiddleEast.
That essay is scholarly and somewhat long, but there is a link to the archived version of the full original essay in the thread itself.
The summary thread starts ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/112441485737099304
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