O'Brien: In opening statements your prosecution said 'action camp' wasn't associated with #DisruptJ20, what's your understanding about that...?
Kerkhoff: 'Action camp' was about #J20 but was not related to the anti-capitalist bloc
O'Brien: You asked for the grand jury to indict [#DisruptJ20 organizer who wasn't present on #J20] under the same theory as the other defendants who were present?
Kerkhoff: He understood that destruction could occur... he was planning for the black bloc
O'Brien: You prosecuted him based on a Jan. 6 It's Going Down podcast...he's participating in a conversation
Kerkhoff: They were discussing #DisruptJ20, the anti-capitalist bloc, the black bloc, were previewing it, telling ppl to come