@krutonium shure, #RustDesk works fine for that too - espechally when you're managing said systems as #IT assets and/or need the ability to login unattended.

  • That being said #Dayon! is an easy-to-setup and explain solution to help #TechIlliterates out in a pinch when their devices ain't enrolled in some #MDM...

@krutonium Obviously it's not my systenm and I don't maintain or touch it but Yeah everyone should have their little "#WinShit #CarePackage" on a stick to make it useable and to yeet all the garbage.

  • #Protip: For #RemoteSupport I can recommend #Dayon which is basically a fancy "Reverse-VNC Client" that makes it super-easy to just connect and do remote hands-on!

It's also FLOSS

GitHub - RetGal/Dayon: Dayon! - A cross-platform remote desktop assistance solution for your family and friends

Dayon! - A cross-platform remote desktop assistance solution for your family and friends - RetGal/Dayon

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@StarkRG nodds in agreeement In a #classroom-like #setup we'd more likely see some centralized, self-hosted #managment solution like #Landscape or #RustDesk being used.

  • I can see why they did this: It's clearly inspired by tools like #AnyDesk and I do have to applaud them for that.

And if this acts similar to #WebCall and merely acts as a "Rendrevous-Server" then traffic and thus costs should be quite low.

I'd still hope they #OpenSource the #Backend so that there's another competitor to #Dayon and #RustDesk available...

  • In the meantime just setting up a sudo admin user with #Pubkey-only auth on #SSH is likely the way to do some admin stuff.

Maybe one day @RaspberryPi will even add #PXE - #NetBoot capabilities to their #RaspberryPi and thus allow for #DisklessWorkstation - Setups, saving a crapton on #MicroSD cards that are prone to get lost and/or stolen...

@mrmasterkeyboard @0xF21D @cesarpose for individiuals who do stuff on the side and who definitely don't make ends meet with #FLOSS I don't assume malice or incompetence unless proven otherwise.

  • If this were like #TeamViewer or #AnyDesk who charge triple digits per seat and year I'd not accept that tho!

Granted #Dayon is AFAICT the only competitive offering if #MeshCentral, #RustDesk & #Remotely are too overkill and that works on the convenient "Reverse-Server" model where one needs to only configure the network on the Assistant end, not on the end of the user seeking help.

  • Which is espechally desired for systems that one hasn't onboarded or ain't intended to get onboarded as a matter of principle (i.e. individual clients' desktops)...

@mrmasterkeyboard @0xF21D @cesarpose precisely that...

@tron yes, and in essence all it needs is to be a more convenient version if @tails_live / @tails / #Tails with like @nextcloud / #Nextcloud integration for seamless sync (with like an encrypted /home for caching and convenience...

Maybe add #Dayon as convenient #RemoteDesktop solution and a basic #AutoUpdater (& Terminal) to it.

@ml I've heard of #RustDesk, but lets just say the whole "it's not #SaaS!" when it clearly is a #subscription #licensing scheme is kinda off-putting to me...
https://rustdesk.com/pricing/?lang=en

That doesn't mean they are bad - far from it.

I just use #Dayon because it's very easy to walkthrough #TechIlliterates when it comes to getting #RemoteSupport up and running with them.

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Seriously, if I was #LinusSebastian of #LinusTechTips I'd literally choose to #donate the cost of a #TeamViewer #subscription to #FLOSS #RemoteDesktop projects like #Dayon instead and sue TeamViewer into upholding their contract or a full refund with interest as if it was a loan because clearly they chose violate that contract on their own terms and initiative!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT1t1JlZugM&t=140

And yes, Dayon! is awesome and I can fully recommend this as an alternative to TeamViewer, #AnyDesk, etc.

https://retgal.github.io/Dayon/

  • For any system that needs Remote Access as unattended I'd recommend to setup a #VPN or at least a Reverse-#SSH connection anyway so one can launch something like Dayon! by just sending a single command and have #RemoteDesktop access on-demand.

So yeah, TeamViewer literally shot themselves in the foot here by deciding to shaft paying customers who were able and willing to pay the absurd prices you asked for for a one-time license.

  • Also whilst TeamViewer does OFC maintain some infrastructure, most what they do is basically run a "rendrevous"-Server to allow two endpoints behind NATs to connect to each other and exchange details to make UPnP-style hole-punching work.

That's traffic in the single-digit megabytes per year and client, as there's not much between as clients pinging their server and basically boing some simple handshakes.

  • And as Linus said it's not his problem if they gotta have to keep systems up and running in perpetuity. They offered that deal and now they have to suffer through it! By paying the obligations are on to TeamViewer to make it work and continue to make it work!

Also if I'm on a #LAN why would I want to use TeamViewer and not any #VNC (or god forbid #RDP) server? THE WHOLE POINT OF USING TeamViewer, AnyDesk, etc. IS TO NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT NATs, FIREWALLS AND IP-ADDRESSES AND JUST GET CONNECTED FFS!!!

  • Personally I use #Remmina and Dayon, but that's because Remmina is comfortable even for SSH and can do that as well as RDP & VNC and Dayon is just the simple option I can walktrough people that need #TechSupport #remote|ly for a quick hands-on...

Definitely my recommendation because it also allows for any use-cases and doesn't nag one to "buy a license!"

  • So please someone please let #Linus know about Dayon so he can do a "TeamViewer alternatives" video...

#LTT #WanShow #WANshow #Enshittification #Greedflation #Licensing #Ownership #Piracy

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@elementary well, #Dayon doesn't like being run in #Wayland and explicitly recommend #X11

@nsysteme @expertenkommision_cyberunfall @gborn ich kann aus Erfahrung #Dayon empfehlen.

  • Ist die einzig "noob-freundliche" & #OpenSource - lizensierte #RemoteSupport - Lösung die ich kenne, weil's as "Reverse-Server" arbeitet und nur jener Support-Rechner eingerichtet sein muss...

https://retgal.github.io/Dayon/quickstart.html

Dayon! - Remote assistance for your family and friends

Remote assistance made easy!