Erik van Straten
Neustradamus :xmpp: :linux:#Conversations 2.17.9 has been released (#Jabber / #XMPP / #Android / #OMEMO / #ChannelBinding / #TLSChannelBinding / #ChannelBindingforTLS) https://conversations.im/
@pake_preacher : I forgot the details of PAKE and SRP, but in the end the most secure client authentication requires:
1️⃣ Strong, long term, human comprehensible, *serving endpoint* authentication;
*AND*
2️⃣ TLS channel binding (enforcing known endpoints).
(Apart from those, both serving endpoint AND client MUST be trustworthy).
🚨 The -corrupt- CA/B forum breaks 1️⃣ by:
a) Advocating anonymous Domain Validated certificates, which render secure account creation IMPOSSIBLE;
b) Continuously decreasing certificate lifetime.
🚨 Furthermore, "legitimate" MitM's * break 2️⃣.
* Man in the Middle, like on-device virusscanners and firewalls that "open" TLS tunnels (both requiring installation of a dedicated root certificate) and proxies such as (definitely not limited to) Cloudflare and Fastly.
😱 Passkeys enforce NEITHER 1️⃣ NOR 2️⃣.
😱😱 Worse, because passkeys (or FIDO2 hardware keys) can be easily irretrievably "lost", servers typically provide WAY EASIER phishable authentication methods (such as "rescue codes").
#AitM #MitM #SecureOnlineAuthIsHARD #SecureAuthentication #OnlineAuthentication #Authentication #Impersonation #ChannelBinding #TLSchannelBinding #UTM #TLS #TLSinterception #TLSscanning #Proxy #Proxies #GoogleIsEvil #CloudflareIsEvil
Daniel Gultsch