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Yes, SpaceX will eventually have a lives-lost incident, and it will be ugly. How the market / investors take it I have no prediction for.

But NASA has had several of those types of accidents over the years, so the waterfall / perfection model isn't immune to them, either. The two shuttle losses were due to bureaucracy that defeated NASA's safety culture, and the Apollo 1 debacle showed that their vaunted safety and technical reviews actually could miss something very important - several things simultaneously, in fact.

I think it's unfair to compare SpaceX's current test-to-failure of Super Heavy and Starship to human-rated missions from anyone. They did the same test-to-failure rapid development with Falcon 9 and Cargo Dragon, leading to Crew Dragon, and they haven't had a life-lost incident yet. They're not deliberately testing-to-failure with humans on board.

#Apollo1 #Shuttle #Columbia #Challenger #NASA #fatality #astronaut

Expedition 71 Astronauts Visit Elsie Whitlow Stokes CFPCS 🌑🧑‍🚀

#AndreDouglas #AndyKoy #Apollo1 #Apollo1Monument #Arlington #ArlingtonNationalCemetery #Artemis #ArtemisII

⏩ 51 new pictures from NASA (Image Library) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles?limit=51&user=OptimusPrimeBot&ilshowall=1&offset=20250419012307

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đŸ•Żïž Les astronautes d' #Apollo1 (de bas en haut) Virgil I. Grissom, Edward H. White II et Roger B. Chaffee posent sur les marches menant au simulateur de mission Apollo au centre spatial Kennedy le 19 janvier 1967.
Le 27 janvier, ils meurent lors d'une répétition générale.

https://reves-d-espace.com/apollo-1-le-27-janvier-1967-un-drame-historique/

Apollo 1, le 27 janvier 1967, un drame historique

Le 27 janvier 1967, l’essai de la capsule Apollo 1 n’allait pas avoir lieu comme prĂ©vu. Lors d’une rĂ©pĂ©tition gĂ©nĂ©rale avant lancement sur le pas de tir, les astronautes Virgil « â€Š

RĂȘves d'Espace

Human progress is paved with the lives of those bold enough to tread where none have dared. Today, on the 58th anniversary of their deaths, we honor the bravery and sacrifice of Apollo 1 astronauts Virgil I. "Gus" Grissom, Edward H. White, and Roger B. Chaffee.

#space #apollo1

27. Jan. 1967: #Apollo1 - die drei Astronauten Edward H. White, Virgil I. Grissom und Roger B. Chaffee sterben durch einen Brand in der Kapsel wÀhrend eines Tests auf der Startrampe.

Last one that really needs a mention for #TuneTuesday‘s theme #SciFiSongs is the band Public Service Broadcasting, not metal, but pure prog, utilising real sounds from archived recordings to tell story, this album documents the #SpaceRace including an homage to the fatal incident of #Apollo1. It is a great listen for #spaceNerds and #progNerds alike.

https://album.link/nl/i/947928979

The Race For Space by Public Service Broadcasting

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To save on labor costs, North American had used machines to bundle the miles of #wires that snaked through the #Apollo spacecraft, the arrangement of which seemed arbitrary to Young. Some wires even appeared frayed. As he surveyed the capsule that Grissom, White, and Chaffee were to fly in, Young saw a seemingly endless amount of short circuits ⚡ https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/01/the-hell-of-apollo-1-pure-oxygen-a-single-spark-and-death-in-17-seconds/

#Apollo1 #FlammableWires

The hell of Apollo 1: Pure oxygen, a single spark, and death in 17 seconds

"I heard them scream get me out of here. And then there was dead silence on the pad."

Ars Technica

#OnThisDay, January 27, in 1967, a cabin fire during a launch rehearsal test killed all three crew members of moon mission Apollo 1, Virgil I. "Gus" Grissom, Ed White, and Roger B. Chaffee (depicted in From the Earth to the Moon, s01e02, "Apollo 1", 1998)

#Movies #Film #Cinemastodon #Letterboxd #TodayInHistory #Histodons #Apollo1 #FromTheEarthToTheMoon

57 years ago: Jan 27, 1967: #Apollo1 pad fire, 3 dead. Article by @AstronomyMag from November covers the history. Lessons learned turned out to become factors in the later successful #Apollo #Moon landings. https://www.astronomy.com/space-exploration/apollo-1-tragedy-the-fatal-fire-and-its-aftermath/ #NASA #DayOfRemembrance #space #history
Apollo 1 tragedy: The fatal fire and its aftermath

On Jan. 27, 1967, a fire swept through the Apollo 1 Command Module during a launch rehearsal test, killing the three astronauts inside.

Astronomy Magazine

On this day in 1967 "tragedy struck on the launch pad at Cape Kennedy during a preflight test for Apollo 204 (AS-204). The mission was to be the first crewed flight of Apollo, and was scheduled to launch Feb. 21, 1967. Astronauts Virgil Grissom, Edward White and Roger Chaffee lost their lives when a fire swept through the command module."

https://www.nasa.gov/mission/apollo-1/

#Apollo1 #NASA

Apollo 1 - NASA

On Jan. 27, 1967, tragedy struck on the launch pad at Cape Kennedy during a preflight test for Apollo 204 (AS-204). The mission was to be the first crewed flight of Apollo, and was scheduled to launch Feb. 21, 1967. Astronauts Virgil Grissom, Edward White and Roger Chaffee lost their lives when a fire swept through the command module.

NASA