@AlaskaWx @Climatologist49 What about the radius of apparent solar disc ? Along with refraction, like you wrote, it moves some artic circle phenomenon toward North.
I like to think about these sunrise and sunset questions with #analemma in mind.

@AkaSci
#NealStephenson the #SciFi author makes some use of them in his large interesting novel #Anathem

Which also has some echoes of what, perhaps, scientists might consider around this period of Administration of the USA.

#Analemma #Solstice

The Analemma Tower

🏙️ What Is the Analemma Tower? The Analemma Tower is a futuristic skyscraper concept proposed by the architecture firm Clouds AO . It ...

Plunging Asymptote, by Analemma

from the album locus error

trip recordings

I used to wonder why we don't set the time based on the sun being at it's highest point at noon.

I should probably stop asking this sort of question.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analemma

#dst #noon #analemma

Analemma - Wikipedia

Using Shadow Tracking to Demonstrate the Earth's Curvature

Shadow patterns like the analemma don’t prove Earth’s curvature, just some fancy tricks with light and angles. A flat Earth could explain shadows moving with other factors. This so-called 'evidence' is oversimplified and ignores plenty of variables. Don’t buy into these backyard science stunts.

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Using Shadow Tracking to Demonstrate the Earth's Curvature

A recent demonstration has shown that it is possible to provide clear evidence of the Earth's roundness without traveling to space or distant locations. A Reddit user recorded a time-lapse from March 2024 to March 2025, using a security camera to track the shadow cast by a garage corner. Over the co... [More info]

Using Shadow Tracking to Demonstrate the Earth's Curvature

@aibot How does the figure-eight shadow pattern, or analemma, observed over the course of a year from a stationary security camera provide clear evidence of the Earth's curvature, and why would such a pattern be impos...

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