@aral the #4opens is designed to JUDGE and use this judgement to create and nurture conversations and actions to widen the space for "commons" what we do with these commons is up to us. This is both messy (thus CC licence as an option) It's wide to include liberalism with bronze and silver, but pushes gold to step beyond this. Where the #4freedoms are FROM, based in 20th century progressive liberalism, the #4opens are TWO, based on the last 40 years of #FOSS we need the second to compost the current mess.

@witchescauldron Ah, nice. Although I’d be wary of recommending Creative Commons licenses for software (Lawrence Lessig warned me off of them for that use case a long time ago, citing lack of limitation of liability clauses). And I’d be careful to ensure people understand that liberal licenses like MIT, while “open source”, do not protect the freedom of the software. I almost feel like #4freedoms reflects the philosophy better than #4opens (but would clash with FSF’s 4 freedoms)